Car Won't Start (Or will it? Now I'm just griping)
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Car Won't Start (Or will it? Now I'm just griping)
This morning I finally figured out where the fill hole was on the transmission. I drained a liter of fluid and added a liter of the ZF additive to get rid of the chirp between hard shifts. Everything was working fine. I test drove the car when I was all done and it was running fine.
When I got back to the house I parked in the driveway so I could clean up the little bit of transmission fluid I spilled. When I got done cleaning, I tried to start the car to pull it into the garage, but it wouldn't start. It just cranked and cranked and cranked.
My first thought was that the new check-valve I added to the fuel line was screwed up, or that the fuel pump had quit working. I checked the pressure on the fuel rail and it was fine. Then I tried the other key, just to see if it was a security system transponder chip issue, but it didn't work either. There are no codes other than the P1111, which is normal. I'm at a loss...
UPDATE: I got done typing this, but before I hit the "Submit New Thread" button I went out to try to start the car one last time. It started instantly. That's a good thing, I guess, but now I'm afraid to go anywhere in it. My wife and I were headed down to Florida this Wednesday, but now I don't know if I want to take the Jag.
When I got back to the house I parked in the driveway so I could clean up the little bit of transmission fluid I spilled. When I got done cleaning, I tried to start the car to pull it into the garage, but it wouldn't start. It just cranked and cranked and cranked.
My first thought was that the new check-valve I added to the fuel line was screwed up, or that the fuel pump had quit working. I checked the pressure on the fuel rail and it was fine. Then I tried the other key, just to see if it was a security system transponder chip issue, but it didn't work either. There are no codes other than the P1111, which is normal. I'm at a loss...
UPDATE: I got done typing this, but before I hit the "Submit New Thread" button I went out to try to start the car one last time. It started instantly. That's a good thing, I guess, but now I'm afraid to go anywhere in it. My wife and I were headed down to Florida this Wednesday, but now I don't know if I want to take the Jag.
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not in sam's car midlife, he's got a 2003. <2001 is the nikasil liners.
And if it was the neutral safety switch, it wouldn't crank at all, just light up the dash and no click. Mine had it, so I know the symptoms of that one.
That is strange Sam. Not sure what it could be. I wouldn't be worried about it until it does it again, and more consistently. Report back if it happens again, and under what circumstances. Were you on an incline? Low fuel?
And if it was the neutral safety switch, it wouldn't crank at all, just light up the dash and no click. Mine had it, so I know the symptoms of that one.
That is strange Sam. Not sure what it could be. I wouldn't be worried about it until it does it again, and more consistently. Report back if it happens again, and under what circumstances. Were you on an incline? Low fuel?
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not in sam's car midlife, he's got a 2003. <2001 is the nikasil liners.
And if it was the neutral safety switch, it wouldn't crank at all, just light up the dash and no click. Mine had it, so I know the symptoms of that one.
That is strange Sam. Not sure what it could be. I wouldn't be worried about it until it does it again, and more consistently. Report back if it happens again, and under what circumstances. Were you on an incline? Low fuel?
And if it was the neutral safety switch, it wouldn't crank at all, just light up the dash and no click. Mine had it, so I know the symptoms of that one.
That is strange Sam. Not sure what it could be. I wouldn't be worried about it until it does it again, and more consistently. Report back if it happens again, and under what circumstances. Were you on an incline? Low fuel?
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Sam, did you try the hold your foot on the floor start sequence? That is supposed to cut off the fuel while starting so if it is a flooded condition it won't keep adding additional fluid.
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I couldn't remember if that was one of the Nikisil issues or just a general issue...
Sam, did you try the hold your foot on the floor start sequence? That is supposed to cut off the fuel while starting so if it is a flooded condition it won't keep adding additional fluid.
Sam, did you try the hold your foot on the floor start sequence? That is supposed to cut off the fuel while starting so if it is a flooded condition it won't keep adding additional fluid.
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I've been following your check valve posts. I just haven't really had any commentary that would add value to the thread... althought I'm not sure my other posts add value, but that is another matter.
My XJR cranks for three to four seconds every time before it starts, so I'm thinking I have a similar issue as you had. I'm sure I will get a real tech to jump in here on the full throttle start to educate us on my less than technical description, but I believe this is a standard method on injected cars to handle a flooded engine.
My XJR cranks for three to four seconds every time before it starts, so I'm thinking I have a similar issue as you had. I'm sure I will get a real tech to jump in here on the full throttle start to educate us on my less than technical description, but I believe this is a standard method on injected cars to handle a flooded engine.
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OK... I got the car home. This is weird. When it happened the first time I checked to see if there was pressure at the fuel rail by pressing in on the schrader valve and letting a little bit of fuel squirt out. Immediately after that the car started. This time, after sitting at the gas station for half an hour, trying to start it every few minutes with no luck, I decided to duplicate what I did to get it started the first time. I let a little pressure out of the line by pushing in on the schrader valve at the fuel rail. IMMEDIATELY after I did that the car started INSTANTLY. I turned on the key and within a half second the engine was running.
So... is the new check valve I installed giving me too much pressure on the fuel rail? Keep in mind that this is a 2003 which doesn't have a return line to the tank. I'm glad that I know how to start the car 5 minutes after shutting it off, but I don't want to have to bleed the fuel rail every time I stop for 5 minutes.
So... is the new check valve I installed giving me too much pressure on the fuel rail? Keep in mind that this is a 2003 which doesn't have a return line to the tank. I'm glad that I know how to start the car 5 minutes after shutting it off, but I don't want to have to bleed the fuel rail every time I stop for 5 minutes.
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Can you test it? Leave a gauge (and apparently a small temp valve) on the shrader valve. Upon going to the car, check and document the pressure, try to start the car. If no go, do your short 'bleed', note pressure, try to start it. If there is a consistent pressure issue, that'll soon reveal itself. Theory-wise, I have no clue if that is an issue.
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Can you test it? Leave a gauge (and apparently a small temp valve) on the shrader valve. Upon going to the car, check and document the pressure, try to start the car. If no go, do your short 'bleed', note pressure, try to start it. If there is a consistent pressure issue, that'll soon reveal itself. Theory-wise, I have no clue if that is an issue.
At least if it won't start on my trip I know how to get it started.
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I don't have an actual pressure tester. I do a pressure test by pushing on the valve and judging how hard the fuel squirts. After I got the car home I was able to start it again with no problem. I drove it about 25 miles this afternoon. I got up to highway speed. Floored it a few times and accelerated up to 85 or so. Stopped a couple of times to run some errands. It restarted fine each time. I brought it home, washed it and cleaned the interior. Started it up to pull it into the garage. I've had no problems since then.
At least if it won't start on my trip I know how to get it started.
At least if it won't start on my trip I know how to get it started.