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Old 08-16-2013, 08:56 PM
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I ordered the base module and add-on jaguar module and they should be here shortly. In reading the documentation that I already downloaded, I'm not sure about the correct protocol. The table indicates that for a 2004 (year of my XK8) I would use ISO 4191-2, but the XK8's were early adopters of the CAN bus architecture, so would I use CAN? Any experience with the software on a 2004?

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It should auto detect correctly but will ultimately pick ISO 9141.

Be patient, especially with the powertrain connection, it has a lot of sensors and can take some time.
 
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Here's the connection screen on my AutoEnginuity ProLine with Jaguar Enhancement:

Connecting autoenginuity ....-autoenginuity-2.jpg

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As you can see, it's connecting ISO9141-2.

No need to pick this. If the configuration for Vehicle Interface Type is set to Auto Detect .......

Connecting autoenginuity ....-autoenginuity-1.jpg

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....... it will do it all or you.

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Old 08-17-2013, 08:22 AM
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My 97 xk8 doesn't auto detect. The xjr does and it still hasn't "found" our x type. Not the best system imho but it was cheap. Guess you get what you pay for.
 
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Originally Posted by TreVoRTasmin
........... Not the best system imho but it was cheap. Guess you get what you pay for.
We must have different concepts of "cheap".

Connecting autoenginuity ....-autoenginuity-3.jpg

That was £408.41 ($638) from the UK importers in July 2012. Is AutoEnginuity very much lower cost in the US?

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He might think we are discussing Ultragauge, where you have to force the protocol.
 
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Originally Posted by krswen
I ordered the base module and add-on jaguar module and they should be here shortly. In reading the documentation that I already downloaded, I'm not sure about the correct protocol. The table indicates that for a 2004 (year of my XK8) I would use ISO 4191-2, but the XK8's were early adopters of the CAN bus architecture, so would I use CAN? Any experience with the software on a 2004?

Ken

It is not uncommon to find cars that utilise the CAN bus for inter module comminication that don't use it on the obd2 interface but rather use the older iso9141 interface.

All Audi, VW, Seat and Skoda cars from the 2000 era do the same.
 
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Graham,

The AutoEnginuity base and Jaguar package is $500 here. Anyone else in Europe that wants one might have one of their friends in the colonies give them one for Christmas.
 

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Originally Posted by TreVoRTasmin
My 97 xk8 doesn't auto detect. The xjr does and it still hasn't "found" our x type. Not the best system imho but it was cheap. Guess you get what you pay for.
If I recall correctly, the 97MY cars are a little different than later years and require jumping two pins on the connector together to get it to communicate.
 
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Originally Posted by test point
Graham,

The AutoEnginuity base and Jaguar package is $500 here. Anyone else in Europe that wants one might have one of there friends in the colonies give them one for Christmas.
That's only £255. The UK importers are making an impressive profit margin!

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Originally Posted by ccfulton
If I recall correctly, the 97MY cars are a little different than later years and require jumping two pins on the connector together to get it to communicate.
Charlie,

I remember reading about this issue when I upgraded my AutoEnginuity last year from an earlier version which was incompatible with the Jaguar Enhancement.

Checked with the manufacturer at the time and they advised it had been resolved in their later scantools and jumping the pins was no longer necessary.

I can't be absolutely certain this is right because the earliest Jaguar my current AE has been on is a 2000MY.

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Don't know the impact of your VAT.
 
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Originally Posted by test point
Don't know the impact of your VAT.
UK VAT is 20%.

However, the regular downside for us with imports from the US is UK 'Customs Inspection Fee' which is £36 ($56).

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Even for 'gifts'?
 
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Even for 'gifts'?
That is a method of avoiding the fee.....

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Originally Posted by ccfulton
If I recall correctly, the 97MY cars are a little different than later years and require jumping two pins on the connector together to get it to communicate.
No jumping pins, just need to manually set it. Still haven't gotten it to read the Xtype. It just keeps turning and turning saying it is waiting to be hooked up to a car. Sadly, my $20 Chinese crap code reader has no issues but the autoenginuity doesn't connect to any of my cars well, don't try driving as it will disconnect inself. Hence why I call the system cheap.
 
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I bought my Autoenginuity in early 2012. I connected to my Oct. '96 built XK8 without problems.
 
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On some of the AutoEngiuity Proline pods units pins 15 to 7 need to be jumpered to work with pre-2003 Jaguar vehicles. I know because I had one of them.

I think they either provide an adapter now or have fixed the problem.
 
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