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How do I raise the rear windows after the green shower of death?

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Old May 16, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Keep in mind that any pressure reduction will not prevent any already over stressed system and I am speaking of the hoses and ram & roof latch seals. The over pressure on the system will cause the hose to be dislodged from the connector and the seals will be forced out of the device seat. Without a doubt the over pressure and the under size of the equipment is a problem in this application!
 
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Old May 16, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkCat
Makes you wonder if we are delaying the problem and not really solving it with the pressure reducing methods. Looks like the problem crops up every four years or so in hot climates at full pressure. Reduced pressure with heat compromised hydraulic lines gives us more time between occurances. Wonder how much?
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This is a great question, but I think it's at present unanswerable.

If I had to guess, I'd bet that most cars running with pressure reduction will have their hoses survive to the life of the car, but some will not.

Running a little quick-and-dirty statistics: far as I know there have been no reported failures with a relief valve, and this is the first with voltage reduction. There are probably now several hundred car-years of service running these systems, so let's be conservative and say one failure every hundred car years. Example: for every ten cars, ten years of service, something like one failure expected.

This is of course a complete SWAG. If asked to prove it, I would run for the hills.
 
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Old May 16, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis07
This is a great question, but I think it's at present unanswerable.

If I had to guess, I'd bet that most cars running with pressure reduction will have their hoses survive to the life of the car, but some will not.
Yeah, probably have to run a poll in five or six years to get data. Hope I still own the car then.

Other related factors may come into play. Like - my car is black. Gets hotter than a white car. May shorten then time between episodes.

Also, my car had "green shower" summer of 2010 (previous owner). So my hoses were sort of new when I installed the pressure bypass a couple of months ago. May extend the time between episodes.

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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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The issue really seems to be the jacket deteriorating in the heat. The pressure may or may not actually be an issue.
 
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Old May 16, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xenophobe
The issue really seems to be the jacket deteriorating in the heat. The pressure may or may not actually be an issue.
I think they are both major issues, especially since the pressure can also dislodge seals. The heat deterioration issue though has been understated, IMHO, in the online discussions.
 
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Old May 17, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteXKR
I think they are both major issues, especially since the pressure can also dislodge seals. The heat deterioration issue though has been understated, IMHO, in the online discussions.
Agreed. The almost-perfect track record (so far) of cars running with some form of pressure reduction has be more than coincidence.

Heat used to be talked about more, then that sort of got lost. Some guys have experimented with insulation on the theory that sunlight is a contributor. Don't know of any results. My own '01 lived in New England until I got it ('06), is parked mostly out of the sun, and the hoses, last I looked, have no visible sign of trouble.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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How do I raise my roof manuall on a 2000 xk after the green shower?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Take a look here https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...eration-72222/ Jim has included a pdf giving the info you need.

You probably won't be able to open the attachment as you haven't followed the new member procedure. C'est la vie.
 
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