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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 10:00 AM
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Hope this is of help to somebody as I couldn't find anything except vague references to where it might be, some said under the dashboard others said behind the fuse box. In fact, if somebody had said with definitive assuredness, that it was behind the driver's side U.K. air vent, it would have saved me hours chasing vague guesses.
Here is s short You Tube video I made to help others find it.
 

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Hi Stephen,
thanks for the video

Please tread carefully if you're changing modules on a 4.2L:- see attached document. I'm not sure if the KTM is involved, but best to make sure.

Have you any security-related DTCs?

 
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 11:06 AM
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Thank you for this.
I think I mentioned in another post the mobile key electrician/locksmith couldn't get a "pulse" when trying to reprogram the keys so he came to the conclusion the KTM was the problem. Hence my digging around for it today. I have ordered a used one off E-bay, same part number, as advised by Jaguar themselves which matched the one I pulled out - LNF2665AA.
To that end, I have no idea how he will proceed but he did mention cloning a new one which I expect would be to the old ones specs. Not sure yet but will keep you updated.
I have printed off that config pdf for my locksmith and make sure he looks at it reading it before programming the new KTM
This pdf seams to highlight VID Block, ( The VID Block, is a complex collection of digital data that represents the vehicle
configuration ) an issue which is present on models later than my own begining with VIN A30645. Mine is A21000.
That being said, it does also go into specifics of configuring new modules replacing failed ones.
 

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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by St. Stephen
Mine is A21000.
VIN ...A21000 is a MY2001 4.0L car ??

 
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 03:37 PM
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VIN ...A21000 is a MY2001 4.0L car ??
VIN ends A21110 and according to the log book a 2003 Jaguar XKR 25/07/2003 - 3996cc - which I guess makes it a 4.0 litre ?
 
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Curiouser and curiouser.
I guess one way to tell other than the cosmetics is if it's a 5 or 6 speed transmission?

Perhaps an import? The UK MOT history site may give you some further information.

 
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Not an import. Hard to tell from the external cosmetics as they are no longer available to view. This now sports a ZeeMax full body kit. MOT show no values concerning gearbox. I have a the Log book and also a full MyCarCheck report and both state a 4.0 litre engine. Also no values concerning gearbox though.
Update, I just checked an internal cockpit video of the car and the gear selector only has 2,3,4 on the J Gate so it's a 5 speed transmission
 

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I just meant that the trans was a way to identify whether it was a 4.0 or 4.2, rather than it may be problematic.

5-speed is Merc. transmission on the XKR, so it's definitely a 4.0 and MY2001, built around April-May of that year (see attached). No idea why the original reg date is showing 2003.

In that case, you can disregard the I-186 document. I still think you should check for DTCs.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 02:42 AM
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Thank you MichaelH as always a great help. I will have a look for dtcs today.
 
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Okey Dokey. Update regarding KTM. The original KTM had blown a capacitor likely caused by the short in the starter motor. Anyhow, the electrician managed to clone the old data to the new KTM which now brings us to the next hurdle.
The key fob lock/unlock doesn't work and there is now a red flashing led on the gear shifter. This leads us to believe the issue now is the immobilizer. Have you any idea how to rest the immobilizer?
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So:-

Does it crank/start ?

Any code(s) thrown ?
 
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no crank, no start
unable to check codes but will this weekend. I had my mechanic plug into it but nothing significant to pinpoint actual fault as presumed to be immobilizer. I'm now wondering if the act of removing the KTM has tripped the immobilizer ?
Saying that, this is where we are now, looking to bypass or reset the immobilizer.
 
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Hi Michaelh. Managed to pull the codes today.
We have B1232 - Security Locking |Module - Inclination sensor - Self Check fail
and....the ECM had a P1260 - Immobilized - Theft Detected - I was able to clear the ECM fault but not the inclination sensor fault so still no crank.
We also have 10 pips at the red flashing light on the gear selector.
 
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Hi Stephen,

B1232 I can't find until MY2003 DTC list. It's entirely possible that your car doesn't have a tilt sensor fitted. It was an optional extra, apparently, and doesn't show in the Electrical Guide until that MY. Section 13.2 is referred to in the earlier guides, but is missing from them.

P1260 is a security issue. Here's what the DTC list shows:



Assuming the replacement KTM is OK, then most likely to be the key(s) need to be reintroduced to the car (Jaguar-capable diagnostic tool). See attached notes re the startup security sequence and key reconfiguration using WDS.

Another possibility is the key reader/exciter coil around the key barrel on the steering column. Less likely, but it's worth checking it and its associated wiring if you've been working in that area
 
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 02:56 AM
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If you narrowed it down to a bad capacitor in the circuit board of the module, why not remove it and solder in a new capacitor? They are very cheap components and easy to replace. Then reinstall module and see if your problem persists? Just wondering why this wasn’t considered. ?
 
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Cheers, it was considered but I had already ordered a replacement so just went ahead with the cloning. It's still an option but the problem now is the security locking module has immobilized the car so possibly going to need a 2nd hand S.L.M. I'm still waiting to hear back from the experts, ie electrician and mechanic.
 
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Hi Stephen,

B1232 I can't find until MY2003 DTC list. It's entirely possible that your car doesn't have a tilt sensor fitted. It was an optional extra, apparently, and doesn't show in the Electrical Guide until that MY. Section 13.2 is referred to in the earlier guides, but is missing from them.

P1260 is a security issue. Here's what the DTC list shows:



Assuming the replacement KTM is OK, then most likely to be the key(s) need to be reintroduced to the car (Jaguar-capable diagnostic tool). See attached notes re the startup security sequence and key reconfiguration using WDS.

Another possibility is the key reader/exciter coil around the key barrel on the steering column. Less likely, but it's worth checking it and its associated wiring if you've been working in that area

Cheers MichaelH. I will double check the codes this weekend. Entirely possible I got it wrong as I couldn't find any reference for that code either, B 1232
 
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by St. Stephen
We also have 10 pips at the red flashing light on the gear selector.
Do you mean that you also hear a series of soft beeps?
Do the horns sound?

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Cheers, it was considered but I had already ordered a replacement so just went ahead with the cloning. It's still an option but the problem now is the security locking module has immobilized the car so possibly going to need a 2nd hand S.L.M.
I would hold fire on that for the time being. You don't want to introduce any more variables at this stage. Note:

"
Battery Tampering Alarm and Restart Procedure
This feature prevents the security system from being by-passed by
battery disconnection.
If the battery is disconnected when the security system is either
armed, disarmed or in the full alarm state, the security system will
automatically resume the vehicle state before disconnection
when the battery is reconnected.
"
See the attached Security System description. It's for 97-99 but substantially the same.

Normally, unlocking with the fob or inserting the key into the ignition and switching to position (ii) will cancel the alarm. However, the key isn't being recognised so the latter procedure won't work.

I suspect the P1260 that you were able to clear has returned?

P.S. steve's suggestion to repair the original KTM is a good one.
 
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Regarding the soft beep, there are 10 soft beeps in time with the flashing led on the gear selector. upon turning the key in the ignition
I will wait to hear back from the auto elctrician some time next week probably to see what he thinks and I will mention the fixing of the old KTM as well.
Along these same lines,I have also put this issue up on a Jaguar Forum on Facebook and a gentleman with 40 years experience running an independant Jaguar repair garage has told me that I will need a new or used S.L.M. security locking module. Simply find one with the same part number and then it's just a matter of programming the key fobs to it.
What are your thoughts on that? I'm of the opinion it would have to be programmed to the car with Jag tech sufficient equipment but he's coming across as it's just plug and play with the right part number which incidentally its LJE2600BB.
 
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Hi,
The soft beeps are what you would normally hear when opening a door with the key if the security system is in the 'armed' state. It is a warning that the car is about to enter 'full alarm' state. Normally, the horns would sound (it does make a racket!) when that happens. The car is also immobilised. (See the doc. I attached for full description).

Cancelling the alarm is achieved by either inserting the key into the ignition and turning to position (ii), or keying the 'unlock' button on the fob. If it were not for the P1260, I would suggest disconnecting the SLM completely and then trying for a start, but that will still fail if the key isn't recognised.

FWIW, the SLM is plug 'n play other than the fob reprogramming IF it came from a coupe and matches the VCATS, but I think you will be clouding the issue further until you get to the bottom of the P1260.

Has it returned?
 

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