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Nikasil engine problems

Old Mar 2, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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Would an engine be damage by only changing the oil/filter once every 3-4 years? I'm looking at a XKR but was service only every 3-4 years and between 20,000km per service. Maybe I should give this one a miss. yes no?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Can anyone tell me if the Nikasil problem occurs on the XKR? I keep reading about the Nikasil issue on the XK8 but not on the XKR?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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I do not want to cut you short but the only way to know is to check the engine serial # and that information is on my page in this link http://www.gusglikas.com/AutoRepairNikasil.htm or if the car is a 2002 or newer. Why do you ask?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Gus
I do not want to cut you short but the only way to know is to check the engine serial # and that information is on my page in this link http://www.gusglikas.com/AutoRepairNikasil.htm or if the car is a 2002 or newer. Why do you ask?
I'm looking at a 1999 XKR convertible, service by Jaguar but only every 3-4 years! The car has been only used only on the weekends or possibly short trips. In 3-4 years the car have only traveled less than 20,000km - total number of km is 100,000km. I am 2000km away from the car so I got the car independently checked out but compression or blow by was not tested.

Its within my price range but there is only about 6 months warranty left on the car. I don't want to get stuck with a lemon.

I know the timing tensioner, water pump, thermostat and trans fluid needs to be done.

My feeling is that I should chase the 2002+ model rather than risking a possible money pit.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 06:21 AM
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I am not an expert but knowing what I know now about Nikasil if the compression is good and a good service record for the car you should be OK. I would be sure that the throttle body (Service Action S514?) was complied with for that car and the system was reflashed TSB 303-52 & 303-35 to prevent cylinder washing. Also TSB 303-58 throttle body position sensor. And I think you would be good to go. Like any other xk owner good luck!
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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The first steel lined AJ26 was number 0008181043. This is a date code and translates to 18th August 2000 @ 10.43am. No Nikasil after that date. AIUI, Nikasil is vulnerable if high sulfur fuel is combined with short journeys in which the engine doesn't reach proper operating temperature. When used "properly" the Nikasil hardens with use and ends up being better than steel.

If it starts first time from cold, and first time from hot I'd say that the engine was okay. Post 2002 gives you 4.2 liters, and a 6 speed gearbox (and slightly better fuel economy!).
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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What is the brand name of the engine restorer you use?

Funny, I was thinking that something like that might help and that was before reading your post.

I have seen a product the is made for different engine sizes (4-6-8cyl) and it claimed to re-line the cylinder bores and restore compression.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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This is a link to my new page for Nikasil Jaguar Nikasil Engine Blocks & Jaguar Nikasil & Sulfur

This is the product I used Restore USA - Engine Restorer
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Be happy with a nikasil engine!
Your more likely to get better engine performance with a nikasil engine
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jochem00
Be happy with a nikasil engine!
Your more likely to get better engine performance with a nikasil engine
 
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Maybe hats or T-shirts are in order.......Nikasil and Proud of It!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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I like that idea!

Originally Posted by mike66
Maybe hats or T-shirts are in order.......Nikasil and Proud of It!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by scm
If it starts first time from cold, and first time from hot I'd say that the engine was okay.
My XJR hesitates a bit when starting from cold, but not from hot... always starts first time though. Should I be worried? It has done 70k miles, and most of it (about 50k) in Michigan between 2001 and 2005, so I guess it has been subjected to sulphur...

It rolled off the production line in May 2000, so it definitely has Nikasil. I haven't checked the engine code, but the car has full service history, and no mention of engine change.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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God, I'm really tired of people saying "Nikasil issue".

Nikasil never has been or is an issue. Nikasil coated liners are far better than steel liners.

Bad gasoline with high sulfur content was the issue.

If you have a car that has Nikasil lined cylinders and it's running fine RIGHT NOW you're better off than someone with steel liners.

The paranoia associated with Nikasil is tiresome and outdated.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Try using a fuel additive BG44K and see if the problem goes away. This situation could be poor fuel presentation. Nikasil is not a bad thing and as a Nikasil owner you need to know that! If you own one know about it and the things you need to do to keep it reliable for you!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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Ok, I'll try my very best not to call it an issue

I've read your writings about Nikasil, Gus, and I will take good care of the engine with that in mind.

I'll give that fuel additive a go. I'll be replacing spark plugs (wasn't done at 60K service for some reason) and fuel filter tomorrow, will see if that makes any difference. And I noticed that a previous owner had put in a 75Ah battery that is a bit short on cranking amps vs. the original 100Ah unit...
 
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JKo
Ok, I'll try my very best not to call it an issue

I've read your writings about Nikasil, Gus, and I will take good care of the engine with that in mind.

I'll give that fuel additive a go. I'll be replacing spark plugs (wasn't done at 60K service for some reason) and fuel filter tomorrow, will see if that makes any difference. And I noticed that a previous owner had put in a 75Ah battery that is a bit short on cranking amps vs. the original 100Ah unit...
Heh... sweet. That wasn't directed specifically at you, btw, just anyone who is reading this. lol

Anyway, the only real issue is if you let the car overheat it will likely cylinder wash and, two different Jag mechanics I've talked to say throwing a little oil down the plug holes usually cures cylinder wash on the Nikasil XKs.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 02:06 AM
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I've used engine restoration products before, and on top of restoring some products claim that it will stay on metal surfaces for a good while (like 50K miles) protecting against poor lubrication e.g. when starting cold.

And then there are ester based oils (like Motul 300V which I prefer for track use) that are said to leave a more persistent film of oil on surfaces.

Seems to me like both of the above could be used as a precautionary method to decrease the effects of cylinder wash...
 

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