Not a nice sunday afternoon
#1
Not a nice sunday afternoon
Hello guys!
Wanted to clean the car today, so went out to start it.
Engine went to 400 rpms 1 second then dies.
After that tried to turn the starter in a small spurt, weird sound turned off instantly. Sounded like no compression in engine, or like the starter not really engaging. But why did the engine stop if it is only the starter?
Worryingly this sounds like chain to me. Had the secondaries changed when I bought the car. Think I will take off one of the camlids and have a look.
Let's say as a worst case the chain has broken. Is there a chance the engine has survived, since it never really started? Or is the engine doomed? If the chain has broken, how do I check the health of the engine? Not sure if I'd like to spend money on new chains and the lot, if the engine shot.
Cheers, Jarle
Wanted to clean the car today, so went out to start it.
Engine went to 400 rpms 1 second then dies.
After that tried to turn the starter in a small spurt, weird sound turned off instantly. Sounded like no compression in engine, or like the starter not really engaging. But why did the engine stop if it is only the starter?
Worryingly this sounds like chain to me. Had the secondaries changed when I bought the car. Think I will take off one of the camlids and have a look.
Let's say as a worst case the chain has broken. Is there a chance the engine has survived, since it never really started? Or is the engine doomed? If the chain has broken, how do I check the health of the engine? Not sure if I'd like to spend money on new chains and the lot, if the engine shot.
Cheers, Jarle
#2
Sounds more like a flooding/cylinder wash which means the car has lost compression.
Two suggestions:
Holding the throttle to the floor cuts off the fuel while starting. Crank with the throttle to the floor for 4 or 5 sessions of 60 seconds each with a couple minutes of starter cool down time between. That causes the oil pump to distribute oil to the dry cylinder walls. After several of those try starting normally.
Spraying oil through the spark plug holes will increase compression and the car will start. See Step 7 of this link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30792
Two suggestions:
Holding the throttle to the floor cuts off the fuel while starting. Crank with the throttle to the floor for 4 or 5 sessions of 60 seconds each with a couple minutes of starter cool down time between. That causes the oil pump to distribute oil to the dry cylinder walls. After several of those try starting normally.
Spraying oil through the spark plug holes will increase compression and the car will start. See Step 7 of this link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30792
#3
Sounds more like a flooding/cylinder wash which means the car has lost compression.
Two suggestions:
Holding the throttle to the floor cuts off the fuel while starting. Crank with the throttle to the floor for 4 or 5 sessions of 60 seconds each with a couple minutes of starter cool down time between. That causes the oil pump to distribute oil to the dry cylinder walls. After several of those try starting normally.
Spraying oil through the spark plug holes will increase compression and the car will start. See Step 7 of this link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30792
Two suggestions:
Holding the throttle to the floor cuts off the fuel while starting. Crank with the throttle to the floor for 4 or 5 sessions of 60 seconds each with a couple minutes of starter cool down time between. That causes the oil pump to distribute oil to the dry cylinder walls. After several of those try starting normally.
Spraying oil through the spark plug holes will increase compression and the car will start. See Step 7 of this link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30792
If one of the chains have broken, I would expect some nasty sounds, but can't hear any of that.
Cheers, Jarle
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#4
Sounds more like a flooding/cylinder wash which means the car has lost compression.
Two suggestions:
Holding the throttle to the floor cuts off the fuel while starting. Crank with the throttle to the floor for 4 or 5 sessions of 60 seconds each with a couple minutes of starter cool down time between. That causes the oil pump to distribute oil to the dry cylinder walls. After several of those try starting normally.
Spraying oil through the spark plug holes will increase compression and the car will start. See Step 7 of this link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30792
Two suggestions:
Holding the throttle to the floor cuts off the fuel while starting. Crank with the throttle to the floor for 4 or 5 sessions of 60 seconds each with a couple minutes of starter cool down time between. That causes the oil pump to distribute oil to the dry cylinder walls. After several of those try starting normally.
Spraying oil through the spark plug holes will increase compression and the car will start. See Step 7 of this link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30792
Gus and Test, you where right. It was the cylinder wash issue.
After following your recipy it started just fine. And sounds great.
Will Jaguar reprogram the car as a service? Is it possible to fix it?
Or do I just have to make sure not to use the Jag for short trips.
I use to work everyday, so the last option doesn't really work for me.
Thanks guys!
On the positiv note I got a bit familiar with the car today. Which is a good thing.
Cheers, Jarle
#5
. I would like to ask a few questions. Did the car start at all? I got the impression that it did and at idle around 400rpm and then it died? That does not sound like washed cylinders to me. Did you hear any clattering in the engine? You have many other causes so do not think it is DOOM yet.
#6
Hey guys!
Gus and Test, you where right. It was the cylinder wash issue.
After following your recipy it started just fine. And sounds great.
Will Jaguar reprogram the car as a service? Is it possible to fix it?
Or do I just have to make sure not to use the Jag for short trips.
I use to work everyday, so the last option doesn't really work for me.
Thanks guys!
On the positiv note I got a bit familiar with the car today. Which is a good thing.
Cheers, Jarle
Gus and Test, you where right. It was the cylinder wash issue.
After following your recipy it started just fine. And sounds great.
Will Jaguar reprogram the car as a service? Is it possible to fix it?
Or do I just have to make sure not to use the Jag for short trips.
I use to work everyday, so the last option doesn't really work for me.
Thanks guys!
On the positiv note I got a bit familiar with the car today. Which is a good thing.
Cheers, Jarle
#7
. I would like to ask a few questions. Did the car start at all? I got the impression that it did and at idle around 400rpm and then it died? That does not sound like washed cylinders to me. Did you hear any clattering in the engine? You have many other causes so do not think it is DOOM yet.
No unusual sounds, apart from that it sounded to be low on compression.
The solution was to run it a while with the pedal to the floor. Repeat that two or three times. Then I heard it started to catch again. I then tried to start it normally, and then it worked.
Been out for a spin now, engine seems to work just fine.
Cheers, Jarle
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#8
I think you need to look at this http://www.gusglikas.com/AutoRepairNikasilSulfur.htm and then ask your questions. This is the last part of my venture and it pulls it all together
I hope that it just is wash issue ofcourse.
Cheers, Jarle
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Gus, it just cathced for a second, reached 400 rpms and died. Never did idle.
No unusual sounds, apart from that it sounded to be low on compression.
The solution was to run it a while with the pedal to the floor. Repeat that two or three times. Then I heard it started to catch again. I then tried to start it normally, and then it worked.
Been out for a spin now, engine seems to work just fine.
Cheers, Jarle
No unusual sounds, apart from that it sounded to be low on compression.
The solution was to run it a while with the pedal to the floor. Repeat that two or three times. Then I heard it started to catch again. I then tried to start it normally, and then it worked.
Been out for a spin now, engine seems to work just fine.
Cheers, Jarle
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