Random faults that dissappear
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Random faults that dissappear
Before you say it, I put in a new battery on the car two weeks ago. This has been happening since before the battery. Besides, the windows are maintaining their position, so no Azheimer's that would point to the battery.
Every now and then, I get an unexpected fault. Before today, it would be the suspension fault warning with the amber light, this one would usually happen upon starting up the engine. Turn off the engine, wait a few seconds, start it up again, and now it's gone. Today, I got a different warning: transmission fault. This one happened after I had been driving for about an hour. Did the same thing. I pulled over, turned off the engine, waited less than two seconds, started the car again and the fault message was gone. I know this is electrical because the car has no other symptoms. Transmission shifts perfectly, the suspension rides perfectly. S button, traction control, and cruise control work as designed. Btw, does the S button do more than change shift points on R cars?
Checking the OBDII reveals no codes logged. Other miscellaneous issues include: no windshield washer (I can't even hear the pump whirring), and the side view mirrors don't adjust left to right, but they have no problem adjusting up and down.
Any ideas? Is this the Ghost of Lucas?
Every now and then, I get an unexpected fault. Before today, it would be the suspension fault warning with the amber light, this one would usually happen upon starting up the engine. Turn off the engine, wait a few seconds, start it up again, and now it's gone. Today, I got a different warning: transmission fault. This one happened after I had been driving for about an hour. Did the same thing. I pulled over, turned off the engine, waited less than two seconds, started the car again and the fault message was gone. I know this is electrical because the car has no other symptoms. Transmission shifts perfectly, the suspension rides perfectly. S button, traction control, and cruise control work as designed. Btw, does the S button do more than change shift points on R cars?
Checking the OBDII reveals no codes logged. Other miscellaneous issues include: no windshield washer (I can't even hear the pump whirring), and the side view mirrors don't adjust left to right, but they have no problem adjusting up and down.
Any ideas? Is this the Ghost of Lucas?
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Page 22 of the attached XK8 Electrical Guide shows where all the modules are located.
XK8 Electrical Guide - 2001MY.pdf
XK8 Electrical Guide - 2001MY.pdf
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1. Permanent faults
a) screen washer (probably failed pump)
b) door mirror lateral adjustment (driver's door switchpack, door harness or door control module)
2. Random faults
a) suspension fault warning with the amber light
b) transmission fault
Weird electrical faults like this point to battery. You've replaced the battery so there's only the remotest chance (but not unknown) that it's faulty.
Eliminating the battery then suggests there could be a problem with the battery leads. Check the leads and connections to the High Power Protection Module:
These are known to become loose or break up at the terminals. A connection problem like this allows normal operation of elecrical equipment but shows odd problems when there's a high drain on the battery during starting.
As for the S(port) button, it apparently changes the shift points but I've always thought it does little more than change driver perception!
Regarding Lucas:
Permanently laid to rest in 1996!
Graham
Last edited by GGG; 04-16-2018 at 07:42 AM.
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giandanielxk8 (04-16-2018)
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Random Issues - New Battery - Fluid level
Last week I got my 2004 XK8 up from its winter nap, and went for a short drive, all was well. The car was on a battery tender for the last 5 months and it was a new battery last year. I went out again a few days later and my DSC, and ABS no cruise messages lit up the dash like a Christmas tree. Of course it must be battery fingers crossed. I drove home and checked the water levels in the battery, I could see the tops of every cell. I got some distilled water filled the cells and now all is right with the world again. So even thought it is a new battery I think with it being on the tender all winter it must have cooked a little fluid off.
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fmertz (04-16-2018)
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You will eventually need to get a Jaguar/Land Rover-capable scan tool for this. There is likely very specific codes telling you precisely what each control module is unhappy with, something beyond what a standard OBDII tool can provide. You can get a handheld tool (check eBay for Foxwell and others) or the factory software/USB cable for a laptop (British Diagnostics). None of these break the bank, really, and handily pay for themselves over time.
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giandanielxk8 (04-16-2018)
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This is how I tested my grounds on my 99 XK8
Link JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
This is a oneline with grounding connections for your car.
Link For 2000 http://jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepa.../jagxk2000.pdf
Link For 2004 http://jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepa.../jagxk2003.pdf
What battery did you get for your car and did you have your charging system checked? I would do that first before taking any other action.
Link JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
This is a oneline with grounding connections for your car.
Link For 2000 http://jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepa.../jagxk2000.pdf
Link For 2004 http://jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepa.../jagxk2003.pdf
What battery did you get for your car and did you have your charging system checked? I would do that first before taking any other action.
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