As far as i understand it the lying office girl in no11 has put the road tax on my 2003 xkr upto £760 per annum. Is this the end for us?

 

The RAC info suggests that is the case for your 2003, but the 99 is cheaper.

Jeez, you guys get hammered

 

She might have to go.

 

"She might have to go."

The lying office girl in no11 ?

 

Rachael reeves , chancellor and shyster

 

My 1999 XK8 is £360 - the flat rate for a car over 1549cc registered before March 2021

My Daimler Super V8 registered March 6 2021 has a CO2 emissions output of 305g/km - the same as your - so should fall into the £760 bracket but because it was registered before March 2006, it is capped at £430. Hopefully yours is the same unless the government website where I got the information isn’t up to date.

It still feels like a lot when you consider the fact that most of us do relatively low mileages and how much we pay in fuel duty but it’s a price I’m prepared to pay for the joy of ownership…

If we bought the equivalent car new, we’d pay £5,490 tax in the first year then £620 for the next five years….

 

I've got a 97 Xk8, so she's ok, but I'm concerned about my '02 XJ8 for precisely this reason. The confusion is that, in the current legislation, higher co2 emitters, i.e., those that would normally be classified in groups L or M, if registered before 23 March '06 are dropped into the far less punitive category K. In cash terms, this means the difference between an annual bill of £430 and one of £760.
As far as I can tell, there's been no official confirmation that this dispensation is being suspended, so the question is, 'is this simply an omission of incompetence, or an increase by stealth'? I could believe either explanation, frankly.
I've been in touch with the JEC and they are aware of the question but don't currently have an answer.
I think that this issue is very rapidly going to become a hot topic in modern classic circles and needs further investigation and clarification, rapidly.

 

There is a lot of sensationalist headlines about this, but as Mark says above, these cars are capped at Band K.

 

What doesn’t make sense is that a 5 litre supercharged XJ registered in May 2017 and so outside the 5 year additional high value surcharge pays only £195 per annum when we pay £430 but, then, whoever said tax was simple?

 

Hope your right about band k and £430. That is still extortionate and unfair but doable.

 

The whole system is a mess and should be simplified. If they do move to charging per mile it will be a much fairer system.

 

That is what they did here in 1993 by scrapping the annual tax in exchange for 5p per litre added to the fuel price.

I have kept my last disc in the MG as a 'souvenir'. £10 pa in those days...

 

As far as I am aware there is an exception for cars made pre 2006 where they can't go higher than Band K. In the recent tax brackets the exception seems to have gone so I assume our cars will go up but I thought this last year and it never happened so we will have to wait and see I guess. It doesn't really make much sense to me because there aren't that many cars on the road being used that are made before 2006 and would be in Band M otherwise.

 

WOW! You need to get out on the streets with placards and protest. I don't want to make you feel bad, but . . . my 2 old cars in Florida ('99 Mercury, '01 XK8) have an annual registration renewal tax of $42 each (31 GBP); my 4 old cars in Ontario Canada ('93 Cadillac, '90 Jaguar XJ-S, '70 Marcos Mantis, '70 Marcos GT) have an annual registration renewal tax of $0 each (0 GBP). No emissions testing in either place; no safety testing (MOT) in either place. I won't mention petrol prices.

 

You are comparing apples and oranges. I have a friend who lives in Chicago, similar age to me. We were comparing healthcare costs and deductibles. I don't want to make you feel bad so I won't tell you what I pay.

 

Hi dibbit . . .
I don't want to hijack brinny's thread by getting into a discussion about healthcare costs. Suffice to say that I live in Canada and our healthcare costs are like yours (unless you patronize the practitioners on Harley Street), so apples to apples; the USA is a completely different - you do not want to get sick if you don't have (extremely costly) insurance, so apples to oranges, or perhaps lemons.

 

I've just dug out an old tax disc £165 for 12 months back in 2005. I remember writing to Gordon Brown when they first introduced these bands to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient cars, to complain about the unfairness of backdating the changes. It's one thing to do it for new cars, another to do it for cars already on the road as if we can go back in time and buy a Ford Fiesta instead. Anyway my V8 still had the same number of cylinders after the road tax went up, lol.

 

From the JEC:

https://jec.org.uk/2026/clearing-up-...d-car-tax-ved/

 

Thanks very much jec.