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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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OK... you know how when you pull on the door handle and the window rolls down about half an inch, and then when you close the door it rolls back up? Well my driver's door does the roll down bit, but it doesn't roll back up. I have to manually roll it back up with my finger on the button! It takes so much effort, and I want the car to do it for me automatically like it's supposed to. Any thoughts?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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Have you first synced the windows Sam? when closed (and you inside) press button to lower, and when it reaches the extent of travel, keep holding the switch down, you'll hear a click in about 4 seconds...then go all the way up, till it stops, then keep holding the button, another click. Now open/close...see if that works.

If it doesn't, two possible problems - (1) weak battery unable to hold the memory or (2) door latch switch (recognizes you pulled up, but to it, you never released it)
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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That did it! However, now I noticed something weird. My driver's window rolls down slightly when I pull on the handle, and it rolls back up as soon as I release it. The passenger door rolls down when I pull the handle, it stays rolled down while the door is open, and it rolls back up when the door is closed. It's not a big deal, it's just weird how the two windows operate slightly differently.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Do you get the message "driver door open" when the door is open? If not the micro switch is not working and the window will return to full closure when the door handle is released.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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that's a darn good way to ruin your door trim too, with the window raised back up before closing, it'll hit it and could damage the window, its alignment, and the trim itself. Need to get that fixed.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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It was the micro switch. I took the latch assembly out, removed the micro switch, put it back in and it works again. I'll see how lasting this "repair" was.

 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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So Markman, how difficult was it to remove the latch assembly? Did you have to take off the door panel?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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The door panel is easy to take off. I had to remove the rear window channel to get the latch out. Took me about an hour.
And definitely watch out not to trip the automatic door lowering. Best to disconnect the battery. It happened to me with my previous XK, I had my hand in there and the window lowered suddenly. I have the scars to remind me of that painful moment.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by markman
It was the micro switch. I took the latch assembly out, removed the micro switch, put it back in and it works again. I'll see how lasting this "repair" was.

Huh, fancy that! Good job Kudos to you!
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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That micro switch could probably be replaced with a Cherry brand micro switch available from electronics parts stores on the cheap. That is a Burgess micro switch. If you can get a part number off of it, Allied Electronics carries Burgess micro switches. Newark also has some that might work.
 

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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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My brother-in-law works at Allied, and can get the switches individually if anyone wants me to look into.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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Gus, get the part number from their online catalog, I bet I can get a couple at no charge <- they call them 'samples'
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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I had a spare door latch lying around and was able to pull the switch part number. The Burgess model is a V4NCSE . Part number on the switch which designates type of lever, NO/NC...etc is T11C2B109. Hope this helps.

Jason
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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let me start the hunt at allied, gimme a few days and will report back!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Matt, The side of the switch shown just says Burgess, the PN's I listed above are on the opposite side of the switch.

I've attached a datasheet and verified the external dimensions, length and width match. The measured height is taller but it looks like the plastic cover on the bottom around the terminations is actually a separate connector.

I'm not sure why but the PN on the back of my switch is missing some of the fields on the last page of the datasheet. The PN I listed above is definitely all thats stamped on the switch, nothing has rubbed off. If Allied can't find a match, or a substitute from an alternate manufacturer I may be able to contact Digikey, or Burgess directly.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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thanks, I'll continue with the Allied group.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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The video below shows how to remove and replace the door latch. The switch itself is attached to the latch, so after you get the latch out you can replace the switch. I don't have the part number handy, but do a search here on the forum, there's another thread somewhere that gives the part number.

Also, the little plastic bit on the end of the push-rod to the key lock mechanism might be worth buying from the Jag dealer (assuming it's available separately from the handle mechanism). I broke mine while removing the latch. I repaired it by drilling a hole in it and using a zip tie to hold it to the latch. (I didn't have any bailing wire handy)

Jaguar XK8 Door Latch Removal and Replacement - YouTube
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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Oh yeah... one other thing. DISCONNECT THE BATTERY!!! I nearly got my hand chopped off the first time I removed the latch. The window started dropping unexpectedly when my hand was in the door. I got it out in the nick of time.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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Spray a little WD40 in the door latch mechanism first prior to removing it I found that most of the problem was the lack of lubrication.


Originally Posted by Blakeb1
I have the same issue, when you open the passenger door, the window goes down a little and then right back up. Then when you close the door, it hits the top. Also the interior light does not come on when you open the passenger door.

Where is the switch you were showing, somewhere behind the door panel. Is there a good picture of how to take the door panel off.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:23 AM
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Just tidying this HOW-TO.
Here's a link to the actual microswitch replacement
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...oswitch-68735/
 
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