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Old 03-12-2008, 02:55 PM
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Default Transmission help!!!

Hello all,
I am posting this for a friend of mine. He has a 2002
X-Type, with the 2.5 v6, with around 56k on it. Somebody
told him he needed to do a transmission flush (which Jag
says 100k according to dealer, but he didn't take it too a
dealer). Since this transmission flush the car drove fine
until about a couple days afterward. It seems the car has
gone into limp mode of some description, and will not go
past 3rd gear. Sometimes not go past 2nd. The guy at the
transmission shop that he took it too said if he just dumps
the fluid, and puts new fluid in there, it'll be fine.

I personally don't buy this, because obvious this isn't your
Grandpa's old Chevy pickup. It'd work on my old Ford Bronco,
but not my Bimmer.

Anyhow, I finally went over and drove the car, and as I said
it won't get out of 2nd, even with going to over to the
manual shift, and the display on the instrument cluster was
flashing 'Gearbox fault.' I had him to (making sure he had
the radio code) pull the battery cable, wait 10 minutes,
then put it back on and see what happens, then take the car
to Autozone to get the codes pulled. He did this, and he
could get into 3rd gear at this point, but only through his
neighborhood, from there it'd only get to second. Luckily
Autozone is 2 blocks from his house.

These are the codes he got: p0733, p0734, p0778, and 1111 (I
don't know the letter in front of it). According to my
tranmission books, they mean:

P0733 Gear 3 Incorrect Ratio
P0734 Gear 4 Incorrect Ratio
P0778 Pressure Control Solenoid 'B' Electrical .

Can anyone tell me what I need to do from here? Has he
screwed the transmission, or what would be something to do?

Thanks for any help or advice anyone can provide!
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:06 PM
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That's the problem with flushing a tranny with a lot of miles on the original fluid..It cleans too much all at once and the crud breaks loose and clogs hydralic channels and valves within..This is especially true if you go many miles on a tranny before you flush it..that's why it's always best to drain and refill every so often to keep the transmission fluid clean and free of sludge.

IMO!
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Hey Dennis, this kinda of reportsmake me what to forget about doing anything with trany fluid. Even drain and refill doesnt sound too much fun anymore.

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Those codes indicate transmission replacement is in the works.
You might be able to find a shop to rebuild it. It is a Jatco box.
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:51 PM
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So there is nothing that can be done? Just go get it rebuilt? Should I try flushing it again?
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:57 PM
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Make sure the fluid level iscorrect first. Also clear the codes after setting fluid level correctly. An outside shop may have put incorrect fluid in there also when they did the flush. Fluid is expensive.
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what kind of fluid was put into it when they did the work?
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FJT, while we are on this topic, do you have any suggestions about a fluid? (other than factory)

Greatly appriciate it.
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People seem to like Amsoil. There is a post here on fluid changes. Lists all the oils used and amounts. Personally with the trans I would use only jatco fluid. Itstheir trans and they are sensitive.
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Yeah.. goodluck to us mortal users to finding that jatco fluid in US.
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Here is an interesting article i found:

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THESE ARE THE VIN AND SERIAL # SPECIFICATION ON CAMPAIGN XT307-S941 A/T REPLACEMENT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOUR VIN NUMBER WILL NOT SHOW UP IN THE OPEN CAMPAIGN LIST BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SPECIFY SPECIFIC VIN NUMBER IN THE CAMPAIGN NOTIFICATION... BUT AS YOU CAN SEE BELOW IT IS ANY CAR WITH A VIN NUMBER IN THE RANGE FROM C00519 TO C62327 WHICH IS 61808 VEHICLES!!!CAN ANYONE SAY CLASS ACTION. IF YOU CALL YOUR LOCAL JAGUAR DEALER THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE NO OPEN CAMPAIGNS ON YOUR VEHICLE... DO NOT STOP THERE TAKE THEM THIS DOCUMENT AND STICK IT UNDER THEIR NOSE...!!!
Action:
The repair of vehicles within this service action must be targeted in a specific order.
Note the following when scheduling vehicles to replace their transmissions:
1. Unsold vehicles and vehicles that have less than 3000 miles on them MUST have a NEW transmission installed, not a remanufactured transmission. These vehicles take priority over all others as new transmissions have been supplied to start the service action. (A remanufactured transmission can be identified by an affixed label stating "remanufactured" adhered to the top of the transmission).
Note: Only transmissions with an EKA suffix can be used in this Service Action. Transmissions with an EKA suffix must not be used to repair any vehicle not specifically covered by this service action.
2. Transmissions manufactured in September and October 2001 are more susceptible to this concern and therefore the customer contact strategy should focus on those vehicles within the VIN range C32605 to C62327.
3. Vehicles within the VIN range of C00519 to C32604 should be contacted last.
Note: Some vehicles contained in this service action may already have a replacement transmission. If so, the vehicle might not be eligible to receive a replacement transmission.
To determine whether the transmission requires replacement, check the transmission serial number. Replace the transmission only if the serial number meets the following conditions:
^ 2.5L and 3.0L starting with 11xxxxx.
^ 2.5L and 3.0L starting with 12xxxxx.
^ 2.5/3.0L: 1300001 - 1399999.
^ 2.5L: 1908190 - 1999999 & 1X00001 - 1X08740.
^ 3.0L: 1908384 - 1999999 & 1X00001 - 1X09438.
Note: If the serial number has a letter stamped behind it, do not replace the transmission - the letter indicates that it has been remanufactured to the latest specification.
If the serial number is outside this range, do not replace the transmission. Submit a claim for the inspection only.
In all cases, the replacement transmission serial number must be captured for Jaguar's database. This bulletin contains specific instructions on how to enter this information based on your dealer management system: ADP, Reynolds & Reynolds. All other DMS systems do not support this functionality; use the DDW system to update a serialized component as described in attachment # 4.
Below is an example to assist in interpreting the serial number.
Example: 1X15384.
The first digit indicates the year of manufacture (Examples: 1 - 2001; 2 - 2002; etc.) The second digit/letter indicates the month of manufacture (Examples) shown.
The digits 3 - 7 are the running number of the transmission manufactured in the year/month given.
The example serial number was the 15384th transmission manufactured in October 2001.
The procedure for replacing the transmission inclusive of an oil level fill and check is included in this bulletin.
After completing the installation of the transmission, complete the "JATCO S941 Automatic Transmission Replacement Form" enclosed in the box. This form will accompany the returned unit back to the remanufacturer for review and or action.
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Hey Dennis, this kinda of reportsĀ*make me what to forget about doing anything with trany fluid. Even drain and refill doesnt sound too much fun anymore.

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Nah, I've been doing trans fluid fill/drains for years now. I've done it on vehicles with even weaker transmissions than the Jag. It's a very good procedure that incorporates putting fresher fluid gradually rather than all at once as Dennis has indicated.

I would do it in a heart-beat on the Jaguar if I only knew what fluid to use and where to obtain it.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:54 AM
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Here is an interesting article i found:

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THESE ARE THE VIN AND SERIAL # SPECIFICATION ON CAMPAIGN XT307-S941 A/T REPLACEMENT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOUR VIN NUMBER WILL NOT SHOW UP IN THE OPEN CAMPAIGN LIST BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SPECIFY SPECIFIC VIN NUMBER IN THE CAMPAIGN NOTIFICATION... BUT AS YOU CAN SEE BELOW IT IS ANY CAR WITH A VIN NUMBER IN THE RANGE FROM C00519 TO C62327 WHICH IS 61808 VEHICLES!!!CAN ANYONE SAY CLASS ACTION. IF YOU CALL YOUR LOCAL JAGUAR DEALER THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE NO OPEN CAMPAIGNS ON YOUR VEHICLE... DO NOT STOP THERE TAKE THEM THIS DOCUMENT AND STICK IT UNDER THEIR NOSE...!!!
Action:
The repair of vehicles within this service action must be targeted in a specific order.
Note the following when scheduling vehicles to replace their transmissions:
1. Unsold vehicles and vehicles that have less than 3000 miles on them MUST have a NEW transmission installed, not a remanufactured transmission. These vehicles take priority over all others as new transmissions have been supplied to start the service action. (A remanufactured transmission can be identified by an affixed label stating "remanufactured" adhered to the top of the transmission).
Note: Only transmissions with an EKA suffix can be used in this Service Action. Transmissions with an EKA suffix must not be used to repair any vehicle not specifically covered by this service action.
2. Transmissions manufactured in September and October 2001 are more susceptible to this concern and therefore the customer contact strategy should focus on those vehicles within the VIN range C32605 to C62327.
3. Vehicles within the VIN range of C00519 to C32604 should be contacted last.
Note: Some vehicles contained in this service action may already have a replacement transmission. If so, the vehicle might not be eligible to receive a replacement transmission.
To determine whether the transmission requires replacement, check the transmission serial number. Replace the transmission only if the serial number meets the following conditions:
^ 2.5L and 3.0L starting with 11xxxxx.
^ 2.5L and 3.0L starting with 12xxxxx.
^ 2.5/3.0L: 1300001 - 1399999.
^ 2.5L: 1908190 - 1999999 & 1X00001 - 1X08740.
^ 3.0L: 1908384 - 1999999 & 1X00001 - 1X09438.
Note: If the serial number has a letter stamped behind it, do not replace the transmission - the letter indicates that it has been remanufactured to the latest specification.
If the serial number is outside this range, do not replace the transmission. Submit a claim for the inspection only.
In all cases, the replacement transmission serial number must be captured for Jaguar's database. This bulletin contains specific instructions on how to enter this information based on your dealer management system: ADP, Reynolds & Reynolds. All other DMS systems do not support this functionality; use the DDW system to update a serialized component as described in attachment # 4.
Below is an example to assist in interpreting the serial number.
Example: 1X15384.
The first digit indicates the year of manufacture (Examples: 1 - 2001; 2 - 2002; etc.) The second digit/letter indicates the month of manufacture (Examples) shown.
The digits 3 - 7 are the running number of the transmission manufactured in the year/month given.
The example serial number was the 15384th transmission manufactured in October 2001.
The procedure for replacing the transmission inclusive of an oil level fill and check is included in this bulletin.
After completing the installation of the transmission, complete the "JATCO S941 Automatic Transmission Replacement Form" enclosed in the box. This form will accompany the returned unit back to the remanufacturer for review and or action.
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Interesting, what can I do about that?

As far as what fluid, I haven't the faintest clue. Probably, not the correct fluid I'd assume.

I'm going to try to drain the fluid, get some Jatco fluid from somewhere, and refill it and hope that works.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:46 AM
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If you find some JATCO fluid that won't require second mortgaging the house, let us know please.
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I have took out the valve body and replace all 9 Solenoid also took out the top part that goes on the gears. Now you shift on R for reverse and it goes forward and keep on shifting down and it's go only forward. What did i do wrong trying to find a Diagram maybe i the switch plugs

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What needs to happen is you need to get a book on the transmission and see where you went wrong. Do a simple google search of "Technical Manual JF506E." I got my Technical manual from DISCOUNT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION PARTS, they were great to work with and the book was only $30.

Good luck,
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