Potential new owner 2017 XFS
#1
Potential new owner 2017 XFS
Hi Everyone. I am about to lease a 2017 XF S but am bit concerned about the problems that are being reported with the ICTP. How problematic has it been and are the 2017's with the updates any better?
Also I read somewhere that you cannot scroll thru your preset radio stations using the steering wheel. Is that the case?
I am anxious to drive a Jaguar after a number of German sedans and I found a beautiful Aurora red w the brogue interior. It was stunning but these ICTP glitches are making me nervous.
Thanks!
Also I read somewhere that you cannot scroll thru your preset radio stations using the steering wheel. Is that the case?
I am anxious to drive a Jaguar after a number of German sedans and I found a beautiful Aurora red w the brogue interior. It was stunning but these ICTP glitches are making me nervous.
Thanks!
#2
First experience
I will share my brief one week experience with my first every Jaguar (XF-R), I previously owned a Mercedes and still own a BMW M-3, my XF is equipped with the dynamic adaptive control which makes it feel like a BMW when it is used or like a Mercedes when it is cancelled. This car has a very comfortable ride and the power when you need it especially the S model. I was advised by the dealer to stick with the non S if comfort was more important (I'm in my 50s).
As for the inControl apps they are completely useless, nothing there is comparable to Waze, Pandora or Spotify and they are still not planning to adapt Car Play or Android Auto anytime soon because of security issue (understandably so, some cars got hacked from thousand miles away), I have the 800W sound system, although it is much better than the stock 325W system it is inferior to the Bose system I used to have in my FX-45.
Steering wheel allows you to change tracks and sources, not preset memories (so far) but the high end touch screen has a custom home screen you might be able to save some presets..haven't tried). I attached my 120G 3rd gen iPod to the USB and it works great, I also put some songs on a flash drive and stuck it to the USB and it plays perfectly. Some people here complained about interrupted music from blue tooth, it only happened once for me.
I have ALL the options added to my XF-R including HUD and so far I love it, I decided to lease this one and wait 3 years to see where this model matures into.I hope this was helpful
As for the inControl apps they are completely useless, nothing there is comparable to Waze, Pandora or Spotify and they are still not planning to adapt Car Play or Android Auto anytime soon because of security issue (understandably so, some cars got hacked from thousand miles away), I have the 800W sound system, although it is much better than the stock 325W system it is inferior to the Bose system I used to have in my FX-45.
Steering wheel allows you to change tracks and sources, not preset memories (so far) but the high end touch screen has a custom home screen you might be able to save some presets..haven't tried). I attached my 120G 3rd gen iPod to the USB and it works great, I also put some songs on a flash drive and stuck it to the USB and it plays perfectly. Some people here complained about interrupted music from blue tooth, it only happened once for me.
I have ALL the options added to my XF-R including HUD and so far I love it, I decided to lease this one and wait 3 years to see where this model matures into.I hope this was helpful
#3
Thank you for the information. As you mentioned the driving dynamics are great especially w the adaptive suspension. I probably won't be using the car apps much. I am mostly concerned w just basic nav and radio features. Not being able to change presets thru the steering wheel could b a deal breaker for me.
Thank you for getting back to me and enjoy your XF!
Thank you for getting back to me and enjoy your XF!
#5
Thanks yes I had the salesman send a technician out to my car and try it and he also verified you can change the presets thru the steering wheel.
I read thru 27 pages of the UK F-Pace forum of issues with the ICTP. It seems like almost every F Pace is affected. My dealer told me they have had issues with a number of F Paces and some XE's with the ICTP but so far no XF's have come back with problems. I guess that's what I expect him to say.
I don't know I'm very nervous. I'm thinking of switching to the MB C43 I was considering.
Thanks again
I read thru 27 pages of the UK F-Pace forum of issues with the ICTP. It seems like almost every F Pace is affected. My dealer told me they have had issues with a number of F Paces and some XE's with the ICTP but so far no XF's have come back with problems. I guess that's what I expect him to say.
I don't know I'm very nervous. I'm thinking of switching to the MB C43 I was considering.
Thanks again
#6
Thanks yes I had the salesman send a technician out to my car and try it and he also verified you can change the presets thru the steering wheel.
I read thru 27 pages of the UK F-Pace forum of issues with the ICTP. It seems like almost every F Pace is affected. My dealer told me they have had issues with a number of F Paces and some XE's with the ICTP but so far no XF's have come back with problems. I guess that's what I expect him to say.
I don't know I'm very nervous. I'm thinking of switching to the MB C43 I was considering.
Thanks again
I read thru 27 pages of the UK F-Pace forum of issues with the ICTP. It seems like almost every F Pace is affected. My dealer told me they have had issues with a number of F Paces and some XE's with the ICTP but so far no XF's have come back with problems. I guess that's what I expect him to say.
I don't know I'm very nervous. I'm thinking of switching to the MB C43 I was considering.
Thanks again
I tested the BMW 5, Audi6,MB C300(ugh) and E300. The MB C43 might be better but I would be surprised. With my 2016 XF AWD(for winter) Prestige and V6 it really scats! Not only scats but tracks like on rails. I was so surprised I simply bought it(cash) on the spot. I have owned 2 MBs and 2 BMWs and had problems with them all so I am not expecting a perfect car. I use the USB with a stick for music as the radio stations bug me with all the commercials. As noted elsewhere I find the Start/Stop feature a pain and switch it off. Most cars have it nowadays. Caveat Emptor with any car. Best wishes for your choice of car.
AL
#7
Thanks for relaying your experience. I have had a number of MB's, BMW's , Audi's and P cars and have been fortunate that they have all been relatively trouble free. I am coming out of an Audi S8 and a BMW 750i prior to that and really had no issues other than scheduled maintenance with either vehicle.
It is a shame that the XF seems to suffer from these infotainment issues as the Jaguar was beautiful to behold and drove way better than any comparable German car in its class.
I am waiting to see if the expected Nov. update solves some of the issues as I am anxious to join the club.
It is a shame that the XF seems to suffer from these infotainment issues as the Jaguar was beautiful to behold and drove way better than any comparable German car in its class.
I am waiting to see if the expected Nov. update solves some of the issues as I am anxious to join the club.
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#8
Like you I'm not interested in the apps. Besides, the best car implementations will always be behind the best cell phones. What sold me was my first test drive. It has the perfect balance of style, sport, power, balance, comfort, noise reduction, and handling for my taste. The ICT meets my requirements and I'm still finding neat features I wasn't aware of. I didn't make any trade offs by getting it.
#9
Thanks for relaying your experience. I have had a number of MB's, BMW's , Audi's and P cars and have been fortunate that they have all been relatively trouble free. I am coming out of an Audi S8 and a BMW 750i prior to that and really had no issues other than scheduled maintenance with either vehicle.
It is a shame that the XF seems to suffer from these infotainment issues as the Jaguar was beautiful to behold and drove way better than any comparable German car in its class.
I am waiting to see if the expected Nov. update solves some of the issues as I am anxious to join the club.
It is a shame that the XF seems to suffer from these infotainment issues as the Jaguar was beautiful to behold and drove way better than any comparable German car in its class.
I am waiting to see if the expected Nov. update solves some of the issues as I am anxious to join the club.
#10
I have had my XF for four weeks. The ICTP is different. I came from multiple BMW's with I Drive which worked great...This is just completely different. It does function like a computer..where I drive was instant on. I find if I try to use ICTP as soon as I start it locks up. Sometimes, the radio just cuts out. It is a bit annoying that you have to wait for it to boot up to turn on the heated seats. In the end, I think I have to get used to it. It certainly looks cool
#11
I have had my XF for four weeks. The ICTP is different. I came from multiple BMW's with I Drive which worked great...This is just completely different. It does function like a computer..where I drive was instant on. I find if I try to use ICTP as soon as I start it locks up. Sometimes, the radio just cuts out. It is a bit annoying that you have to wait for it to boot up to turn on the heated seats. In the end, I think I have to get used to it. It certainly looks cool
Yes, I understand your perspective on these Systems. I also had many BMWs and until around 2012 the I Drive was a train wreck, Mostly we all need SAT upgraqdes to keep au courant with the changes in the city, especially, road systems. I don't find the graphics very good compared to the 3d of the I drive in BMW but we are also learning. I find the voice system works better and the directions are cleaner and more useable. I get the warnings for traffic jams etc and that helps. I find the Meridian system to be very close to the top BMW system and a little off the Bose system. I miss the CD drive from my 5 series which also played movies. Oh well, I prefer the XF otherwise, for sure. CHeers.
Al
#12
Some 4 week Thoughts
As background I have driven nothing but BMWs and Mercedes since 1979. I have had a variety of styles, 3's. a 4, 5's a 7 on The MB side C Class, Clk, E Class etc. This is my first Jaguar. I think the Xf is fabulous so far. The ICTP is okay, it has some plusses and minuses compared to iDrive, the biggest negative is it is slow and it has to "boot" up. It also sometimes just cuts out....There are some other small things I notice. The doors do not feel as solid as the MB and BMW. The German product feels stronger and the Whump" when you open and close is much more solid. The door panel design and door jams are much cleaner on the German products.....One gets used to the small things. I liked the leg kick trunk opener on my 4 series. The Trunk on the XF lightly cracks and you have to use your hand to open it. As far as power, I think the xf is great, same thing for handling. I miss the fog lights, but not a deal breaker. I also notice a lot more seams in the body, not sure if that will mean anything down the road..........I always felt BMW's handled the best, and MBs were more comfortable...I think the XF is the perfect mix. I love the design....Thus far I am very pleased with my choice. The pro definitely outweigh the cons.
#13
As background I have driven nothing but BMWs and Mercedes since 1979. I have had a variety of styles, 3's. a 4, 5's a 7 on The MB side C Class, Clk, E Class etc. This is my first Jaguar. I think the Xf is fabulous so far. The ICTP is okay, it has some plusses and minuses compared to iDrive, the biggest negative is it is slow and it has to "boot" up. It also sometimes just cuts out....There are some other small things I notice. The doors do not feel as solid as the MB and BMW. The German product feels stronger and the Whump" when you open and close is much more solid. The door panel design and door jams are much cleaner on the German products.....One gets used to the small things. I liked the leg kick trunk opener on my 4 series. The Trunk on the XF lightly cracks and you have to use your hand to open it. As far as power, I think the xf is great, same thing for handling. I miss the fog lights, but not a deal breaker. I also notice a lot more seams in the body, not sure if that will mean anything down the road..........I always felt BMW's handled the best, and MBs were more comfortable...I think the XF is the perfect mix. I love the design....Thus far I am very pleased with my choice. The pro definitely outweigh the cons.
AL
#14
As background I have driven nothing but BMWs and Mercedes since 1979. I have had a variety of styles, 3's. a 4, 5's a 7 on The MB side C Class, Clk, E Class etc. This is my first Jaguar. I think the Xf is fabulous so far. The ICTP is okay, it has some plusses and minuses compared to iDrive, the biggest negative is it is slow and it has to "boot" up. It also sometimes just cuts out....There are some other small things I notice. The doors do not feel as solid as the MB and BMW. The German product feels stronger and the Whump" when you open and close is much more solid. The door panel design and door jams are much cleaner on the German products.....One gets used to the small things. I liked the leg kick trunk opener on my 4 series. The Trunk on the XF lightly cracks and you have to use your hand to open it. As far as power, I think the xf is great, same thing for handling. I miss the fog lights, but not a deal breaker. I also notice a lot more seams in the body, not sure if that will mean anything down the road..........I always felt BMW's handled the best, and MBs were more comfortable...I think the XF is the perfect mix. I love the design....Thus far I am very pleased with my choice. The pro definitely outweigh the cons.