Why dont diesel Jag's come to America?
I would love to buy one of the new Jags with the new 3.0 sport models.
Just a random question.
Thanks for any help!

 

i have been asking the SAME thing for 3-4yrs!!

that would make a nice ride!

 

Very few diesels pass the pollution requirements for cars in the USA (trucks have different specs)
It isn't that it can't be done, the problem is the cost of developing an engine with the performance AND the emissions that is acceptable.

 

I suppose if you really wanted to you could get the motor imported but that would cost a pretty penny

 

it could be easier to get a BMW diesel or an Audi, both are great engines.
it would be as much conversion work as importing a Jag diesel and installation!

 

Just to add my four penn'orth; I've no doubt at all that diesel Jags. WILL be made for the US market at a future date, and that's not far off either. It's all down to the pump price of petrol and diesel. US petrol/diesel used to be about a quarter of UK and Europe prices. It has gone up now to around HALF the UK/Europe prices, and WILL continue to rise for exactly the same reasons that UK/Euopean petrol has in the past. And that is TAX. The US government with its 12 trillion dollar debt, shortly to rise even more, WILL have to tax petrol/diesel increasingly more and more until it's on a level with UK/European.
Now you will realize why I run a DIESEL Jag, and why I've spent so much time improving the fuel consumption from the book figure of 26mpgUK-urban to my figure of 35.7mpgUK-urban currently (brim-brim method).
It won't be difficult for Jag. to do diesels for the US either -- there's not much difference between Euro standards and US standards of pollution and safety. I'm thinking mainly of NOx and soot emissions here.
Leedsman.

 

leedsman that is pretty much correct, they are gonna have to pay for the debt somehow!

not many people are happy with the state of affairs,in USA,but when you live high ,someplace along the line ,you gotta pay the piper.

and we in USA are slowly losing our freedoms, its slow so it dont hurt so much, most people hardly notice.

it just takes more money to make it work. darn!

 

HEY ! everyone sure is quiet around these parts, the site that is!
Ron

 

Agreed Ron, but since this section was created we have also opened up the forum with many more model specific sections.

So, I guess that the Diesels are being catered for within their model domains.

Just a hunch.

Now if you have a mega tip for 100mpg and 350 bhp, I'm sure that the guys will be all over it.

 

In a word, EPA.
The EPA has been throttling choice and driving up prices on the whim of environmentalists. We have 26 MPG(highway) V8 Mustangs now, but they cost literally twice as much as they did 15 years ago.
In their infinite wisdom, they're now starting on our domestic energy supply, but that's another conversation.
They've also banned the 50MPG Mini Cooper SD. So we're going to save the environment by using twice as much gasoline in Mini Cooper S apparently, or thee times as much in a diesel truck. Did I mention infinite wisdom?

 

derherr65,, do you think "we the people are the victims of the insane".

 

Was watching on the (BBC?) news the other day about Jaguars XF 2.2d (RHD UK spec) which is circumnavigating the globe doing its US stint the other week.
Arriving in New York for the 2884 mile drive to LA it only stopped 4 times for fuel.
More here:-
Jaguar XF 2.2 Diesel arrives in Los Angeles after driving 2800 miles
It averaged nearly 70 (UK) mpg including some city driving
Earlier this year an XF 2.2d was driven from the factory at Castle Bromwich to Munich – a distance of 816 miles on a single tank.
I'm not sure of how you measure emissions over there but this car only emits 93g/mile of CO2 !!

 

BUCK MR2,, thanks for the heads up on that Jag 2.2D XF.

only a matter of time before Jag starts selling diesel cars in USA.

more power to em!

RON

 

Ron,
The nuts are running the sanitarium, of that there is no doubt.

 

VW has several diesels in the US and sells everyone it can make as fast as it can make them as does Mercedes. I think it is more the perception of diesels over here than it is the technology to have them meet regulations that is the problem.

Until recently the diesel fuel here was inferior to the diesel found in Europe. We had very high sulfur content which has since been lowered. So with that in mind there shouldn't be any added or much more added cost to develope an engine for the US

 

The diesel here in UK is low sulphur.
When I was at Castle Bromwich watching the new XJ's being made there were a number for export to China.Turns out they dont export any diesels to there only petrol cars due to their poor quality diesel.
I think its a shame they arent sent to the US as the quality (no diesel clatter like you used to get with anti vibration dampers and soundproofing), performance (also very easy and cheap to tune, mine beat 4.0 V8s and a 4.2 XJR at Santa Pod in Sept...will update the other thread) and economy are all fantastic.

 

If you define higher lubrication as inferior? Of course there are more costs involved. The fuel company must add additional processing, the engine company must change design or metallurgy, and the rubber seals and lines have to be reformulated. There is only one person who pays for all of this, the consumer.

 

recent tests show that adding 10% vegitable based oil reduces lube probs when using ULSD fuel.

i use it one of my Biofuel cars, and no probs for 20,000miles, 3yrs, so it works for me.

use now a ratio of 50-50% veg oil and ULSD, money saved per yr around $1500.

 

No I define inferior as higher sulfer content fuel that fouls anti pollution devices and has high nitrogen oxide and particulate matter emissions.
"According to EPA estimates, with the implementation of the new fuel standards for diesel, nitrogen oxide emissions will be reduced by 2.6 million tons each year and soot or particulate matter will be reduced by 110,000 tons a year.".

 

hey 2002 orlando , i dont think we can buy hi-sulpher diesel fuel anymore??

i dont quite understand your comment!

i have used Jet fuel , kerosene, lamp oil , crisco veg oil , and any thing that blends with some ULSD. just as long as its filtered well.