Numbers Matching
Does anyone know if there is a recognized authority that can determine the value difference in like vehicle, with and without numbers matching engines?
I recently got my numbers matching 1967 OTS back from a 6 year Concours restoration.
On the way home, it was running hot. The restorer made four repair attempts, until I finally lost patience and began digging in to find the problem. During the resleeving process, their machine shop cracked the block in two (fatal) places.
Now I find myself with a formerly pristine concours e-type, that will have to have an engine change.
I will be dealing with their insurance company soon and would like to be able to refer them to an authority that can determine the lost value. I want to be fair to all, but really don't know the impact of losing my numbers matching status.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Mark
I recently got my numbers matching 1967 OTS back from a 6 year Concours restoration.
On the way home, it was running hot. The restorer made four repair attempts, until I finally lost patience and began digging in to find the problem. During the resleeving process, their machine shop cracked the block in two (fatal) places.
Now I find myself with a formerly pristine concours e-type, that will have to have an engine change.
I will be dealing with their insurance company soon and would like to be able to refer them to an authority that can determine the lost value. I want to be fair to all, but really don't know the impact of losing my numbers matching status.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Mark
Hi mars9735,
That is too bad that you have to go through this with your just restored E-Type. I don't know anyone in particular that I could recommend, but I would try to reach out to one of the concourse judges in the jaguar club or the Antique car club of America. There is also a magazine about car auctions (I can't remember the title, I think Classic Car Value) that you can get at Barns&Noble that may give you an idea. Another possible source could be an auction house, or Wayne Carini at F40. Regardless of what happens, I would keep the original engine. If or when the time comes to sell the car, you can always include the original engine with the sale.
Good luck.
Bill.
That is too bad that you have to go through this with your just restored E-Type. I don't know anyone in particular that I could recommend, but I would try to reach out to one of the concourse judges in the jaguar club or the Antique car club of America. There is also a magazine about car auctions (I can't remember the title, I think Classic Car Value) that you can get at Barns&Noble that may give you an idea. Another possible source could be an auction house, or Wayne Carini at F40. Regardless of what happens, I would keep the original engine. If or when the time comes to sell the car, you can always include the original engine with the sale.
Good luck.
Bill.
Mark:
I’ve always thought that a 25% discount should be applied to a non-matching-numbers car...just my opinion.
As for your ‘fatally cracked’ block...don’t assume it can’t be repaired. There are specialists out there who can stitch together cracked blocks, transmission cases, etc.
Good luck!
Alan
N.J.
I’ve always thought that a 25% discount should be applied to a non-matching-numbers car...just my opinion.
As for your ‘fatally cracked’ block...don’t assume it can’t be repaired. There are specialists out there who can stitch together cracked blocks, transmission cases, etc.
Good luck!
Alan
N.J.
I agree with Alan's comment regarding the repair of the cracked engine block. There are welders that specialize in repairing cracked blocks. So, as I mentioned in my earlier post, do not get rid of the engine. Even if you don't want to repair it, the next owner might, and having the original engine is always a plus.
Again. Good luck.
Bill.
Again. Good luck.
Bill.
Hi Mars9735,
A damaged block or replacement block will decrease its value. Classic Motorsports magazine recently had an article on diminished value of vehicles being in an accident and repaired. It was quite interesting. I couldn't find my copy of the magazine with the article, probably gave it to a friend, But you should be able to find it in a book store or their website.
I would guess that a person looking for a 95+ point car, numbers matching would deduct 25 to 50%, but that's just my opinion.
I hope this helps
A damaged block or replacement block will decrease its value. Classic Motorsports magazine recently had an article on diminished value of vehicles being in an accident and repaired. It was quite interesting. I couldn't find my copy of the magazine with the article, probably gave it to a friend, But you should be able to find it in a book store or their website.
I would guess that a person looking for a 95+ point car, numbers matching would deduct 25 to 50%, but that's just my opinion.
I hope this helps
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