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Old 04-04-2016, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Be very careful who you take advice from on forums. Not everyone is as knowledgeable or accurate as they may seem. If it concerns you, take it in.
+1. Even someone very knowledgeable couldn't possibly assess the situation accurately from your description other than to say your observations are a serious concern, and worthy of immediate service department inspection. (the dirty water is typical, the smoke/vapor is not)
 
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Be very careful who you take advice from on forums. Not everyone is as knowledgeable or accurate as they may seem. If it concerns you, take it in.
Now thats a shocker !
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Be very careful who you take advice from on forums. Not everyone is as knowledgeable or accurate as they may seem. If it concerns you, take it in.

What?! I thought if it was on the Internet it had to be true!
 
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What are you basing this statement off of?
My last new car (2013) was an oil burner. I went through the saga with manufacturer to get this addressed. I also have a number of classic cars that I drive and race. I am very familiar with oil burning, how it looks and what it takes to fix.

When I say typical dealer won't be excited about having to do this type of work and will try to dissuade you, I am speaking from experience. I am 100% sure they won't even consider any work addressing oil burning until break-in is finished, unless the car is burning truly outrageous amount of oil. Which it doesn't as there would be other outward signs of this that OP didn't mention.

Yes, there are multiple possible causes of oil burning, and some of them could be fixed without taking the engine out. In my opinion, aside from blow-by due to inadequate tolerances and 0w20 oil they are astronomically unlikely on a new car. If you are burning oil on a new car, this is why. Which I am very certain OP isn't burning oil.

There is a simple test for blow-by. Get someone to follow you. Get your engine to high RPMs then get it to engine brake by suddenly lifting off the throttle for 10s or so without downshifting. Do it couple times in a row. If you see puffs of blue-black smoke, you have some blow by.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
the vapor is not
I disagree. Last couple days here was quite cold. When I left my F-type outside overnight, it produced quite a bit of vapor both on startup and while merging onto highway. I am not concerned.

My old BMW with stainless steel exhaust was notorious for making tons and tons of vapor in the fall and spring. The same deal - something about exhaust design and local climate that produced a lot of condensation that would result in tons of vapor. That car never burned any oil or lost any coolant.

YMMV.
 
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:17 AM
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I disagree. Last couple days here was quite cold. When I left my F-type outside overnight, it produced quite a bit of vapor both on startup and while merging onto highway..
Light blue vapor (post 1) is neither water vapor nor typical.
 
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:35 AM
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OP followed up and re-stated that it is clear, not blue. Here is relevant quote:

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Also my buddy just texted me back. He was behind me when I hit it.. he said its 100% white smoke. 100%. I asked.. was there any baby blue/light blue, he said no.. 100% white. And I mean, I was going fast so maybe I wasn't fully paying attention..
 
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SinF
OP followed up and re-stated that it is clear, not blue. Here is relevant quote:
After 30 minutes of warmup (post #9) it's still not ambient moisture water vapor (unless that story has changed as well).
 
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:54 AM
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Again, I respectfully disagree. I had cars (my post 25) that took very long time to clear water out of exhaust. In my experience stainless steel exhaust with platinum cats is especially prone to lots of vapor.

I am actually not sure what material F-type uses for exhaust, but I expect it is ceramic cat with stainless steel piping (unless SVR, that uses titanium alloy). Do you know what it is?
 
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The only thing I know is, 100k car is not supposed to smoke; blue, white or black after warm up. Easy enough to reproduce the result, tell the mechanic to take it for a test drive, and floor it?
 
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The only thing I know is, 100k car is not supposed to smoke; blue, white or black after warm up. Easy enough to reproduce the result, tell the mechanic to take it for a test drive, and floor it?
You'd think, but no. The p***y at my dealer wouldn't. Nor would he even shift fast.
 
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You'd think, but no. The p***y at my dealer wouldn't. Nor would he even shift fast.
What part of $100k sports car and fast doesn't he understand?
 
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Sadly, he understands the reality that $100K sports car more often than not is a $100K fashion accessory and/or status symbol than a sports car.
 
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Sadly, he understands the reality that $100K sports car more often than not is a $100K fashion accessory and/or status symbol than a sports car.
I get it.
 
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You may find that the smoke you are seeing is from the cats.

Once hot and you 'romp' it, they start to scrub the gases and also deposit built up residue from previous runs where they have not got hot enough to rid themselves of any buildup, which can manifest itself as smoke.

Get your pal to take a video from behind you and post it please, as the colour of the smoke will identify the problem accurately, rather than trying to describe the colour.
 
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