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Old 02-10-2016, 05:49 PM
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Hi guys. Do you know how much the 18" Vela Wheels weigh for the front and back? I tried to look in my owner's manual and couldn't find anything.
 
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a TON. Keep in mind that these are cast wheels with multiple spokes. I was shocked at how heavy they were when I upgraded to the 20" wheels. But then again I was spoiled from having light weight forged wheels on my last car.
 
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haha, well, how much does a TON equate to exactly? It would be good to know the specific numbers so I can compare to my aftermarkets.
 
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I have a mounted and balanced set of Velas stored in my barn. I put 20" Gyrodynes on my car after 2K miles. I'll try to get a front and rear weight when I have a chance, but it will be this weekend at the earliest.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
I have a mounted and balanced set of Velas stored in my barn. I put 20" Gyrodynes on my car after 2K miles. I'll try to get a front and rear weight when I have a chance, but it will be this weekend at the earliest.
I'll weigh the 19" m&b propellers for reference as well.
 
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thanks guys!
 
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:35 AM
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Weighed the 18" Velas mounted w/ OEM Contis and TPMS sensors, I won't claim total accuracy, but my scale is very close.

Front: 49 lbs.
Rear: 53 lbs.
 
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I'm replacing my 20" Gyrodyne wheels this week and will weigh them and post the results...
 
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I'm replacing my 20" Gyrodyne wheels this week and will weigh them and post the results...
That would be great, thanks. As I was weighing the Velas this morning, I was kicking myself for not weighing the Gyrodynes before I put them on.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Weighed the 18" Velas mounted w/ OEM Contis and TPMS sensors, I won't claim total accuracy, but my scale is very close.

Front: 49 lbs.
Rear: 53 lbs.
I spent some time on the phone with a tire supplier, and his answer for the weight of the front Continental Sport Contact 2 245/45x18 100W tires was 27#. He said the rear 275/40x18 103W tires were 25#. Now this looks to be opposite of what I see for other brands of tires, so let's just say these tires are 25 to 27 # each. So using Foosh's bathroom scale, that puts the front wheels at 22-24#, and the rear wheels at 26-28# each. Close enough for horseshoes?
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
...I was kicking myself for not weighing the Gyrodynes before I put them on.
+1. I'd like to know the weight of mounted Gyrodynes as well. The "19 Propellers with P-Zeros weigh 56.6 lbs front, 59.4 lbs rear.

TireRack quotes the P-Zeros at 24 front, 28 rear. Wheels (with TPMS) are therefore 32.6 frt and 31.4 rear? Unlikely.
 

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Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1. I'd like to know the weight of mounted Gyrodynes as well. The "19 Propellers with P-Zeros weigh 56.6 lbs front, 59.4 lbs rear.

TireRack quotes the P-Zeros at 24 front, 28 rear. Wheels (with TPMS) are therefore 32.6 frt and 31.4 rear? Unlikely.
I'm not sure the stats published by Tire Rack are all that reliable. Obviously the rear wheels can't possibly be lighter. However, I do suspect the front and rear wheels weights are close. Even though the rear wheels are a bit wider, the vast majority of the weight is in the wheel face.

Nonetheless, the only thing that matters is the total mounted weight on each corner, and there is no question that those JLR cast wheels are very heavy.
 

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awesome info guys. Thanks!
 
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I was able to get an employee (Nishan) with StockWheels.com to weigh a few Jaguar wheels. I don't think they had any F-Type wheels in stock, but here is what he had. The easy answer, is the stock Jaguar wheels are heavy.
XF, 18x8.5, Front/Rear, 10 Y Spoke, 25.8#
XF, 18x8.5, Front/Rear, 6 Spoke, 26.6#
XK, 18x9.5, Rear, 7 Spoke, 29#
XF, 18x8.5, Front/Rear, 7 Spoke, 26.4#
XF, 19x8.5, Front, 10 Double Spoke, 33.8#
I will post one more weights that I get from them.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1. I'd like to know the weight of mounted Gyrodynes as well. The "19 Propellers with P-Zeros weigh 56.6 lbs front, 59.4 lbs rear.

TireRack quotes the P-Zeros at 24 front, 28 rear. Wheels (with TPMS) are therefore 32.6 frt and 31.4 rear? Unlikely.
Just looking up the wheel and tire weights of the R53 Mini fitted with 18" wheels suggests that Jaguar wheels are pretty light for their size. Consider: an 18" wheel for a tire just 205 wide weighs over 25lbs* While this can be bettered, much worse are available aftermarket...

*The GP wheel is less than 20lbs, while most of the Works wheels are 23-24lbs.
 

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Originally Posted by F-typical
Just looking up the wheel and tire weights of the R53 Mini fitted with 18" wheels suggests that Jaguar wheels are pretty light for their size. Consider: an 18" wheel for a tire just 205 wide weighs over 25lbs* While this can be bettered, much worse are available aftermarket...

*The GP wheel is less than 20lbs, while most of the Works wheels are 23-24lbs.
I suspect you are right the JLR cast wheels are higher quality and probably lighter than many cheap after-market cast wheels. There are several ways to cast wheels differing in cost, durability, and weight.

The weights of wheels only published above are consistent w/ the tire/wheel mounted weights that Unhingd and I posted.
 
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Originally Posted by IRRBrogue
I spent some time on the phone with a tire supplier, and his answer for the weight of the front Continental Sport Contact 2 245/45x18 100W tires was 27#. He said the rear 275/40x18 103W tires were 25#. Now this looks to be opposite of what I see for other brands of tires, so let's just say these tires are 25 to 27 # each. So using Foosh's bathroom scale, that puts the front wheels at 22-24#, and the rear wheels at 26-28# each. Close enough for horseshoes?
I found a little more information, and I believe the base 18" Conti Sport Contact 2 tires are 25# front, and 27# rear. Using the total weights from Foosh of 49# front and 53# rear, puts the Vela wheels at 24# front and 26# rear, which makes sense.

Then I found and old XF post that listed the difference in weight for optional wheels and tires, with the 18" Velas as the base. These increases were for 4 wheels and tires. The 19" wheels and tires increased the weight by 11.5#, 28.2#, and 35.3# for the 3 optional wheels. The 20" wheels and tires increased the weight by 33.5#, 35.7#, and 43.7# for those options. So 19" Jaguar wheels and tires add from 3# to 9# per wheel, and 20" add from 8# to 11# per wheel.

Again, these are XF wheels. I still cannot find detailed information on the F-Type wheels. But, as Foosh did, if you have your wheels off, please weigh the wheel and tire, and let us know the weight and wheel and tire details. For us detail types.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1. I'd like to know the weight of mounted Gyrodynes as well. The "19 Propellers with P-Zeros weigh 56.6 lbs front, 59.4 lbs rear.

TireRack quotes the P-Zeros at 24 front, 28 rear. Wheels (with TPMS) are therefore 32.6 frt and 31.4 rear? Unlikely.
Your 19" wheels and tires are 7.6# front and 6.4# rear heavier than the 18" Velas, and that seems to fit with the info Jaguar listed for XF upgrade wheels.
 
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