F-Type ( X152 ) 2014 - Onwards

4 or 6 Point Harness

Old Apr 24, 2017 | 10:44 AM
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So we have been breaking out heads trying to figure this out.
After removing the carpet trim behind the seats, we do see a bar (roughly 2x6 or so) which appears to be frame.
Could we mount the shoulder points there or do we have to make a harness bar of some sort?

My biggest issue is that it seems that if we did make a harness bar, it would force me to sit closer to the wheel due to the center between the seats having metal which pokes out further than directly behind the seats. When you're 6'2, that does not seem like an option I want to go with.

Were working closely with a few manufacturers trying to figure out how to mount these safetly without sacrificing space. Any input is welcome, first show is 3 weeks away so were starting to be in a bind!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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A picture would probably help.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 12:16 PM
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Car is in the shop and I am at work, will get one over later today
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 03:38 PM
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As a 6'2" guy in a F-Type R I think you are going to have a significant challenge finding space to mount the shoulder belts in a proper way without significantly cutting the plastic panel behind the seat (I have no idea what is back there).
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 04:00 PM
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These were from my first F-TYPE. Sorry for the crappy quality.








And of course the complete shell of the car:
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 04:35 PM
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If it's for show, you could floor mount it if you have to.

In an accident, this would break your collarbones, but at least it looks cool.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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Ok so those pics are way better than what I could have.
So my question is this:

The bottom 2 points will mount under the seat.
The 2 shoulder points, would they be safe to mount to the bar in the back (rectangle blue and silver bar in the last pic)?
We were going to use bolts with plates on the trunk side to secure them in there.

Furthermore, should I just leave the factory belt hooked up behind the seat so that I don't have to deal with the light?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PunisherFType
The 2 shoulder points, would they be safe to mount to the bar in the back (rectangle blue and silver bar in the last pic)?
We were going to use bolts with plates on the trunk side to secure them in there.
The important part is the angle:



The height of the seat with rails installed will determine whether or not that bar will work.

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should I just leave the factory belt hooked up behind the seat so that I don't have to deal with the light?
You should be able to unplug the harness from the female portion of the buckle, and bridge the connection. May require some investigation with a multimeter to figure out if it needs a resistor or not.

Source: I'm in the process of building our third Lemons track car and they're incredibly strict about safety.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jfranks
I'm in the process of building our third Lemons track car and they're incredibly strict about safety.[/I]
Indeed they are. I don't think that 4-point is even legal, although I haven't read the rules in a couple of years.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Indeed they are. I don't think that 4-point is even legal, although I haven't read the rules in a couple of years.
Even if it is legal, you need those anti-sub belts to stay safe. Otherwise you can permanently lose height real fast.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Indeed they are. I don't think that 4-point is even legal, although I haven't read the rules in a couple of years.
Originally Posted by Unhingd
Even if it is legal, you need those anti-sub belts to stay safe. Otherwise you can permanently lose height real fast.
We're in agreement. My point was mainly that if you need something to be safe, it's probably required by LeMONS.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
We're in agreement. My point was mainly that if you need something to be safe, it's probably required by LeMONS.
I knew we were in agreement. Just trying to underscore the point for Punisher's benefit.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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It was jfranks who mentioned leMONs. I highly doubt Punisher is running his F-type in a leMONs race. Saw my brother-in-law's brother run an old LTD police cruiser in a leMONs race - highly amusing.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS
It was jfranks who mentioned leMONs. I highly doubt Punisher is running his F-type in a leMONs race. Saw my brother-in-law's brother run an old LTD police cruiser in a leMONs race - highly amusing.
The Crown Vic is probably the most successful LeMONS car in the series history. In an endurance race, endurance matters a lot and those things can take the punishment.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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Okay, we've gone far enough down the Lemons rabbit hole. That's enough threadjacking
 
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Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:13 AM
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So I searched the forums for a race harness, saw the CG Lock recommendations and found out they have since been discontinued due to production cost. I did find a project 7 racing harness online at an offical parts store, but it looks to be sold out. I'm hoping that a minimum they have the mounting brackets (number2) in the image. I'll call around and let you know what I find.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:28 AM
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So I called a dealership near me (Boston MA) and was told "it was a limited edition sourced directly from the UK". I've reached out to Viezu and VAP to see what they are using; because I am assuming they regularly track their vehicles. I figured it can't hurt.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 09:46 AM
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No Dice. I heard back from VAP and Viezu to which both said they don't have a solution. I figured it was worth the ask.
 
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