Had a scary thing happen today. When parking, I have gotten in the habit of hitting the "Start" button. I don't know if this is a bad thing or not, but that's what I've done for 4 months or so. Today I went to park in front of a business that was on a very slight incline. I hit Start and went to get out. The car just about rolled away from me. I was still about half way in, fell down and slammed the brake after rolling about 5'. I'm wondering if 1) I shouldn't be using the Start button that way or 2) if I just took my foot off the brake too fast after hitting it and it didn't have time to set the transmission. Anybody else experienced this (almost) nightmare?

 

Am not quite understanding? Are you simply pressing the Start button instead of pressing the P button on the gear selector to put it in park? That may be a short cut if that works but not sure why the rush instead of going through the process. Always make sure Park is engaged before exiting (not trying to sound like a parent).

 

Need some more information so to understand your process. You get the car in a parked position, then do you press the 'start ' button to shut off the car? and then press it again when you are going to get out? without more details, I for one, do not understand why you would press Start a second time, unless you forgot something and were going to move the car or leave or something like that. I have a 2017 manual trans car and when I get it parked, I shift it into first, shut it off and it automatically sets its parking brake. To start the car, I have to have the clutch pedal depressed, also have other foot on brake pedal, in addition to the parking brake. If I am in the car and only press the start button, but don't depress the clutch, the car goes into accessory mode, engine does not start. If your car is an automatic, are you leaving the car in gear rather than shifting it to P (park)? It sounds like you were very lucky this time, you could have been pulled under the car, run over, the car could have run into someone and somethings.

 

Agree with all above. I think you have misunderstood how your controls are supposed to work. Hit the start button to stop the engine, but then move the stick into park.

 

Doesn't the car automatically select park and apply the EPB when you stop the engine (stop/start notwithstanding)?

 

I put it in park then push stop, but I find regardless if I dont put the park brake on it rolls a few inches or so, so I always do. I think it took someone here to remind me that the car is auto park brake off, not on.

 

Mine (MY 2015) automatically goes into Park when I shut 'er down but does not and never has automatically applied the EPB.
And auto EPB off works when I start 'er up then select D or R.

 

My MY18 handbook says "The EPB automatically applies when Park (P) is selected." and "The EPB applies automatically if the ignition is switched off and the vehicle's speed is below 3km/h *2mph)." The handbook also gives instructions on how to prevent these automatic operations.

So maybe the behaviour varies with MY?

 

My EPB only releases when I use the throttle.

 

One thing I don't like about the Jaguar auto transmission is the way the gear selector lever works. I drove nothing but manual transmission cars from 1982 to 2019 when I bought my Mazda CX 5 SUV. It took a long time to get used to driving an automatic again. The Mazda has a very traditional auto transmission gear selector lever that moves through several gated positions and also displays the selection on the gauge cluster. I would have preferred a similar tactile gear selector lever for my 2021 F Type.

So my procedure in the Jag is when I park I keep my foot on the brake, use the gear selector lever to select the Park position and at the same time observe the dashboard display to confirm the transmission is in Park. After that, I press the Start button to shut off the engine. When parking on an incline I usually manually activate the EPB as well and disengage it after starting the engine and before shifting into drive. All the while keeping my foot on the brake until ready to drive away.

A moment's carelessness can result in a catastrophe with the kind of electronic transmission selectors that our Jaguars and some other cars have these days. Be vigilant at all times guys.

 

My V6S goes into park automatically, but I manually pree for park before I turn off just in case! EPB doesn't come on unless you lift the handle manually

 

Yes it does. The EPB doesn’t automatically engage on early model years, it does on later (and on my ‘18 XE.)

 

I park on a slope so I manually set the EPB before I select park, to avoid any strain on the transmission.

 

I’m gonna say this whole thing was an April fools play given the lack of engagement on the part of the OP ;-0

 

Dave is correct. The early years didn't automatically engage the parking brake. I'm not sure the first year of the change, but it had happened by MY17.

 

Not an April fools joke just had a terribly busy week. I didnt realize so few knew this. When coming to a stop and getting out of the car, I have been ONLY pressing the Start button. It puts it into park and kills the engine. Im almost always on flat ground. This time the car went into Neutral and genuinely started rolling (ie not a few inches). Sound like i need to be hitting P then kill the engine.

 

2021 P300

foot on brake

shift to park

as the transmission slips into PARK I always feel the brake pedal depress itself a tiny bit and the light on the left side of the dash comes on.

THEN i turn off the engine

I never exit the car until I see the confirmation of that light coming on

Again, 2021 P300

BEST !

RWS

 

That feeling in the brake pedal is not because you have put it in Park, it's the feel of the EPB engaging.

 

Agreed, the EPB must be hydraulic.

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RWS

 

Nup, the EPB is purely electric.
Two electric motors one on each rear caliper, no connection to the hydraulic service brakes at all.
It's just that the EPB, when it applies itself, pushes the brake pistons out which you can then feel through the brake pedal.