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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:40 AM
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Hello,
I am interested in Jaguar's AWD system and how much power it can handle. I figured someone here has to have a tuned v8 AWD.

Also, does anyone know if the AWD system in the 575s is uprated or is it the same components as in say a P450?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 04:17 AM
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Why would you want 4 wheel drive in Texas. Rear wheel drive is more fun.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 07:46 AM
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Why would you want 4 wheel drive in Texas. Rear wheel drive is more fun.
For one, the 21+ R is AWD only.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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Why would you want 4 wheel drive in Texas. Rear wheel drive is more fun.
I don't do any crazy driving really. I just like being able to accelerate quickly, namely from ~20mph to ~80mph for highway use.
Currently, I'm getting wheelspin with 605 hp and 275 conti extremecontact dsw06s. I'm going to upgrade soon to the sport 2s but I'm skeptical about how much of a difference there will be given that my big heavy engine is so far away from the drive wheels.
I'm new to all this performance car stuff so I'm open to other suggestions. My assumption is that the AWD system would greatly improve traction as the entire car's weight is now going to drive wheels?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 09:10 AM
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My assumption is that the AWD system would greatly improve traction as the entire car's weight is now going to drive wheels?
Bear in mind that the AWD system feeds power predominantly to the rear wheels until it thinks a bit of front power might help keep you on the black stuff.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bismarck
Hello,
I am interested in Jaguar's AWD system and how much power it can handle. I figured someone here has to have a tuned v8 AWD.

Also, does anyone know if the AWD system in the 575s is uprated or is it the same components as in say a P450?
It is identidicle.

It's not like an Audi's AWD system. Its default is RWD.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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When I saw the ad for a 2024 F-type P-450 R- Dynamic RWD at Tampa Jaguar I ran down to buy it. I think it will go up in value down the road.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 10:22 AM
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With a launch, the wheels in front get up to I think 50% of the torque...so wheel spin goes away...launch will be faster AWD if you ignore extra weight issues.....

Otherwise, it runs like a rwd car and frankly is pretty fun.. I don't notice steering issues....am not sure the data agree with all the opinions..... They would not have sold the SVR in awd .....if it was "boring"....
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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I have tried to find out what kind of AWD system it is but haven’t found any good info. I am familiar with Audi’s old school Torsen and its limitations. Also familiar with Volvo’s Haldex that is far superior in weather. Being from Michigan, I didn’t even consider a RWD anything.

Until I found a good deal on a 4.2 XF. Even after putting great tires on it the one wheel spin at stop lights was atrocious. Got rid of it when I got my Pace S.

I have nailed my AWD Type R’s go pedal in the dry from a dead stop and it is glorious. No tire slip or side step at all. Rain doesn’t seem to bother it much. Snow, on the other hand, with the enormous tires is a bit frightening. Even with AWD and all the nannies.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by scm
Bear in mind that the AWD system feeds power predominantly to the rear wheels until it thinks a bit of front power might help keep you on the black stuff.
My current understanding is that:
  • RWD -- going 20mph and flooring it will make the wheels spin, which makes traction control cut the throttle and apply the brakes.
  • AWD -- going 20mph and flooring it will make the wheels spin, which will cause traction control to transfer power to the front wheels. This will allow me to put the full engine power to the road.
Does that sound right or am I misunderstanding the situation?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bismarck
My current understanding is that:
  • RWD -- going 20mph and flooring it will make the wheels spin, which makes traction control cut the throttle and apply the brakes.
  • AWD -- going 20mph and flooring it will make the wheels spin, which will cause traction control to transfer power to the front wheels. This will allow me to put the full engine power to the road.
Does that sound right or am I misunderstanding the situation?
Straight line, maybe. From my personal experience, in a corner, the traction control will kick in before the AWD transfers enough power to keep the rear from kicking out. With the traction control off, you can easily get the tail to kick out, especially with the OEM P-Zeros. Even after switching to Pilot Sport Cup 2s, I have lost the rear with the traction control turned off.

The traction control is pretty brutal. It's like an on/off switch.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by eeeeek
Straight line, maybe. From my personal experience, in a corner, the traction control will kick in before the AWD transfers enough power to keep the rear from kicking out. With the traction control off, you can easily get the tail to kick out, especially with the OEM P-Zeros. Even after switching to Pilot Sport Cup 2s, I have lost the rear with the traction control turned off.

The traction control is pretty brutal. It's like an on/off switch.
That's unfortunate. Out of curiosity, is that all AWD systems like Porsche and Audi as well or is Jaguar just lacking?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bismarck
That's unfortunate. Out of curiosity, is that all AWD systems like Porsche and Audi as well or is Jaguar just lacking?
Jaguar's AWD system is designed to give you a RWD feel. It's not like the full time AWD systems. It kicks in when things get really crazy unless you put it in rain/snow mode. Then it is much more like others' AWD systems.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2024 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eeeeek
Jaguar's AWD system is designed to give you a RWD feel. It's not like the full time AWD systems. It kicks in when things get really crazy unless you put it in rain/snow mode. Then it is much more like others' AWD systems.
This is why I bought a F-Type with AWD. RWD in a sports car sucks if you unexpectedly get caught in the middle of a snow storm
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Mine is stored during the endless Michigan winters but I have found the “dual stage” traction control pretty nice during summer driving. One quick push gives it some latitude on oversteer and a 5 second push eliminates traction control completely and gives you hooligan mode.
 
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