That should be their corporate logo: “Not for the OCDs”.
It’s a great car but with a lot of idiosyncrasies. Very well suited for this ISTP.

 

Would using an OBD2 reader like a veepeak reader tell me the *actual* oil level in a percentage? As an engineer, this ambiguity is killing me.

 

You must not be a field engineer. We have to deal with ambiguity all the time.

 

Congrats on the SVR . You probably risk more damage flat bedding it than just driving it in. Did you make sure you waited 10 to 15 minutes after you shut it off before checking?

 

It doesn't work that way.
If you try to bring up the oil level read-out earlier than 10 minutes after you shut the engine down you won't get any reading at all, instead you will get a message along the lines of "not available check handbook". The fact that MK45 got one or more readings means he must have waited at least 10 minutes each time.
But I agree, way more risk putting it on a flatbed than just (gently) driving it in.

 

@Unhingd True, but what’s really bothering me is that the information is there but what I’m seeing is some dumbed down version that is throwing errors when potentially everything is fine. Ambiguous may have been the wrong word, but the key is this ambiguity could easily be avoided by providing somewhat less filtered data to the operator. Ambiguity is inevitable, but ambiguity that can be easily done away with, but isn’t, is definitely frustrating from an engineering standpoint.

 

My take away is I'm driving it and accepting life as it is. Now, that only comes after I confirmed that it was filled to 97%, which is close enough to be a non issue. OP, the OBD reader that the shop foreman used provided the 97% reading. If so inclined, I'm confident that you can obtain a reader for your own peace of mind.

 

What do you expect - it's British!

 

What’s also poorly documented is that the dipstick displays an average, but I’ve never seen a description of how it’s averaged - over multiple starts? There’s a procedure to ‘update the average’, and there’s another one to give an instantaneous readout, useful when changing the oil.

 

All true. The fact that we don’t get a real dipstick to physically measure oil and a fully functional oil pressure gauge gall the crap out of me. Oil temp, boost and volt gauges also highly desirable, but apparently we’re considered too stupid to properly interpret what the readouts mean.

 

Thats jaguar for you , service is shambolic to say the least once they have your money they simply dont give a flying Fxxk , Not to worrie wont be long before they go bust or sell out to citron group

 

hello everyone, for the impatient 10 minute waiters you do know the cruise control cancel button bypasses the wait time ? When the oil level say unavailable hit the cancel button twice, and the level appears

 

TorquePro and a $10 OBD dongle gets you the high tech (crappy) digital versions of the basic gauges like voltage and oil temp and maybe 100 more things the car knows but doesn't want to tell. The public domain AJ133 package adds,

AJ133 Boost
AJ133 Engine Oil Temp
AJ133 Engine Oil Volume
AJ133 Gearbox Temp
AJ133 IAT2
AJ133 Locking Diff Oil Temp
AJ133 Oil Level

Still no way to read oil pressure AFAIK, the most important guage to monitor engine health.

 

I really meant to say oil pressure. Oil temp not so critical if the water temp gauge is functional. Does that AJ133 package support the AJ126 engine? And yes, analog gauges would be far preferable.

 

Yes it works for both the V6 and V8.
AJ126-AJ133 Torque App PIDs.pdf

Here is the dongle I use, there are probably better ones but it works
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What if I have an iPhone and can’t get torque pro? I got OBD Fusion but haven’t been able to try it out yet.

 

Un, no one considers you "too stupid". But dipsticks cost money. Jag could offer one as an option, but the PR fallout from charging for a dipstick would not be good. The F-Type is a performance car and therefore does not have superfluous things like gauges. Guages are for GT and luxury cars. On a performance car when something breaks, you check the oil.

 

ebay has new 10" Android tablets under $3.

​​​​Glue one to your dash and you'll have an Audi F-Type.

 

For anyone else out there wondering, OBD fusion on an iPhone can import custom PIDs, you just have to do so using iTunes. I haven't checked if the PIDs actually work yet though, I'll post an update when I get a chance.

 

What's wrong with hooking up a piece of clear tubing a few feet long (can't remember diameter - sorry), attaching it to the center tube in the fill port, sucking on the tubing until you see the oil fill the tubing most of the way, cover the opening of the tubing with your thumb and moving it down below the engine while routing it to whatever calibrated collection device of your choosing (like a pyrex measuring container)? That's what I did and it worked fine. Once I drained a quart out, I went through the process of checking (now low) - then adding back until at 100%. It turns out mine was only about 6 ounces overfilled.

I love this forum but IMHO this topic gets waaaayyyyyy too much emotion. Just sayin'!