British Racing Green only at a higher price?
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But outside in a bit clouded weather, or when its getting dark, NO GLORY.. It wasn't much more then "off-black" , just as the dark bleu metallic : "off-black" ... I was really disappointed and had the choice
between a 2016MY V6 340hp in BRG [ 3000km, demo] or my new 4-Cylinder P300 in Ultra blue with DAB [ that for some strange reason no demo car has in the Netherlands..]. Also the V6 had the preformance
seats with bolsters, but about 3cm short of legroom... So I bought the P300 and had aftermarket bolsters fitted as these are 'not required' anymore according to JLR topdogs... .. that how disappointed I was in BRG...
I did see a RR Autobiography in the expensive green.. ..wow.. thats the business... But on a RR its an € 8500 option... Just enough to buy a nice metallic green UP! as a shopping trolley..
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Marketing at JLR has definetely lost its marbles.. .. at least the BRG ones..
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Right on.
In the meantime, the plot thickens, as I found this titbit (https://www.autobytel.com/jaguar/f-type/2016/color/).
Apparently older models also carried BRG (and IRR) as a metallic color (even if xirallic).
Here's wondering if anyone with a MY15 or MY16 F-Type has the "BRG Metallic" reference in the driver's door label.
In the meantime, the plot thickens, as I found this titbit (https://www.autobytel.com/jaguar/f-type/2016/color/).
Apparently older models also carried BRG (and IRR) as a metallic color (even if xirallic).
Here's wondering if anyone with a MY15 or MY16 F-Type has the "BRG Metallic" reference in the driver's door label.
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Right on.
In the meantime, the plot thickens, as I found this titbit (https://www.autobytel.com/jaguar/f-type/2016/color/).
Apparently older models also carried BRG (and IRR) as a metallic color (even if xirallic).
Here's wondering if anyone with a MY15 or MY16 F-Type has the "BRG Metallic" reference in the driver's door label.
In the meantime, the plot thickens, as I found this titbit (https://www.autobytel.com/jaguar/f-type/2016/color/).
Apparently older models also carried BRG (and IRR) as a metallic color (even if xirallic).
Here's wondering if anyone with a MY15 or MY16 F-Type has the "BRG Metallic" reference in the driver's door label.
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Interesting as well: 2018 Jaguar F Type Colors of Touch Up Paint
showing that the color was the same up to MY2018. And unavailable for MY2019, so I was lucky to get it in-between color specs changing.
Its code is: 1AL, 2129, HGY, JBC2129.
Also, apparently it's the same color as used on the XJ, although named "BRG Pearl" (and "IRR Pearl"): https://touchupdirect.com/touch-up-paint/jaguar/xj/
showing that the color was the same up to MY2018. And unavailable for MY2019, so I was lucky to get it in-between color specs changing.
Its code is: 1AL, 2129, HGY, JBC2129.
Also, apparently it's the same color as used on the XJ, although named "BRG Pearl" (and "IRR Pearl"): https://touchupdirect.com/touch-up-paint/jaguar/xj/
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Seems they did not. Only for MY19 they decided to up the ante with a much higher price for the same color (while adding a second one).
That said, don't see how this Dutchie could be called black: https://www.autojunk.nl/2014/10/jaguar-f-type-coupe-r-2
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A bit more info that I've run across. Color code for the Xirralic is HGY and in production through May 2015, part way through the MY 2016 production. Code 1AL was produced thereafter and referred to as metallic. This is the code I have for an early June 2015 production unit. The code is prominently displayed on that paint/trim label on the driver's side door frame.
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A bit more info that I've run across. Color code for the Xirralic is HGY and in production through May 2015, part way through the MY 2016 production. Code 1AL was produced thereafter and referred to as metallic. This is the code I have for an early June 2015 production unit. The code is prominently displayed on that paint/trim label on the driver's side door frame.
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Right on.
In the meantime, the plot thickens, as I found this titbit (https://www.autobytel.com/jaguar/f-type/2016/color/).
Apparently older models also carried BRG (and IRR) as a metallic color (even if xirallic).
Here's wondering if anyone with a MY15 or MY16 F-Type has the "BRG Metallic" reference in the driver's door label.
In the meantime, the plot thickens, as I found this titbit (https://www.autobytel.com/jaguar/f-type/2016/color/).
Apparently older models also carried BRG (and IRR) as a metallic color (even if xirallic).
Here's wondering if anyone with a MY15 or MY16 F-Type has the "BRG Metallic" reference in the driver's door label.
Looking at these two gorgeous machines reminds me that Jaguar keeps producing, and has always produced beautiful cars. From a visual standpoint the competition just can't come close - especially when they use the same basic design for almost 5 decades!
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The plot thickens, meaning that we're getting more info on whether JLR changed BRG in between model years.
Seems they did not. Only for MY19 they decided to up the ante with a much higher price for the same color (while adding a second one).
That said, don't see how this Dutchie could be called black: https://www.autojunk.nl/2014/10/jaguar-f-type-coupe-r-2
Seems they did not. Only for MY19 they decided to up the ante with a much higher price for the same color (while adding a second one).
That said, don't see how this Dutchie could be called black: https://www.autojunk.nl/2014/10/jaguar-f-type-coupe-r-2
'.. it was OK in the sun and under the floodlights in the showroom.. But outside in a bit clouded weather, or when its getting dark, NO GLORY..
It wasn't much more then "off-black" , just as the dark bleu metallic : "off-black" ...".
So if you come up with a BRG car in the sun : yes, thats fine..
I found these taken on a clouded day, different models, througout the years. All near black if not in the sun !
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A bit more info that I've run across. Color code for the Xirralic is HGY and in production through May 2015, part way through the MY 2016 production. Code 1AL was produced thereafter and referred to as metallic. This is the code I have for an early June 2015 production unit. The code is prominently displayed on that paint/trim label on the driver's side door frame.
That is not an authoritative source, however interesting. The older non-metallic BRG was code HGD (and I had this on my 2007 XK, see photos: the difference is apparent). The BRG Xirallic on my 2015 F-Type is code HGY- and the label on the door jamb says just that: HGY with no descriptor - presumably because the only BRG offered at that point was a Xirallic formulation. The addition of the word "metallic" (or, as others have written, the addition of 1AL) may well indicate the change from Xirallic to ordinary metallic (still beautiful!).
Looking at these two gorgeous machines reminds me that Jaguar keeps producing, and has always produced beautiful cars. From a visual standpoint the competition just can't come close - especially when they use the same basic design for almost 5 decades!
Looking at these two gorgeous machines reminds me that Jaguar keeps producing, and has always produced beautiful cars. From a visual standpoint the competition just can't come close - especially when they use the same basic design for almost 5 decades!
That HGY (xirallic) seems more “flaky”, containing different “swirls” and indeed showing a brighter and lighter green than the newer, more subdued 1AL (with descriptor “BRG Metallic”). As I understand, production of xirallic paint depended on one Merck factory in Japan which resulted in delivery problems when an earthquake caused the production to halt and forced Merck to diversify and switch from xirallic to meoxal (http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...oreUserAgent=1).
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Thanks, that clears things up.
That HGY (xirallic) seems more “flaky”, containing different “swirls” and indeed showing a brighter and lighter green than the newer, more subdued 1AL (with descriptor “BRG Metallic”). As I understand, production of xirallic paint depended on one Merck factory in Japan which resulted in delivery problems when an earthquake caused the production to halt and forced Merck to diversify and switch from xirallic to meoxal (http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...oreUserAgent=1).
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Actually, seems Merck stopped offering their patented Xirallic in BRG and their Xirallic NXT line carries no green at all (https://www.merckgroup.com/en/brands/pm/xirallic.html)
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Yesterday I had the chance to do a comparison between the Xirallic BRG (on my F-Type) and the later (2017) non-Xirallic, metallic BRG on my son's F-Pace (the code on both cars, by the way, is the same HGY). The difference between the two paint formulations surprised me -even though I was prepared for it (I thought). The Xirallic is of a far more brilliant hue in the sun, and there is also a difference with the car in the shade. This is a subjective assessment, but the Xirallic, to me is far more dramatic and far more beautiful -in brief it has more life to it. Too bad about the loss of that formulation because it is significantly more attractive. The photo, clicked on, should rotate to proper orientation (no idea why the photo uploads on its end - and yes, this is a rotated file, so that is not the explanation.)- look at the glow of the Xirallic - completely different from the "metallic" BRG.
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