Thanks for the recommendation! I will give it a go and report back my results. Do you also recommend their Brilliant Shine Detailer? Any opinions on using it on wheels?

 

Great point!!
Many dont realize a small downside to ceramic- you cant put anything additional over it. Even car wash that has wax in it, clogs it up.


You dont need anything over netshield, but it will tolerate other things. I dont use anything and not felt the need. Just washing with my favorite gentle soap gives me that effect. (phenomenal soap )

 

I haven't felt the need to put anything over it, so I don't see it as a downside.

I've used, over the years:

cheap wax
pure carnauba
synthetic wax (paste and liquid)
polymer sealant
ceramic

The difference between the first three is clear. Carnauba looks great but doesn't last as long are synthetic wax. In the California sun, it was once a year for both for the whole car, but hood and roof twice in between for carnauba, once for synthetic.

With polymer sealant and ceramic, both are still looking good when I do my annual pre-summer beauty treatment. Both are easy to apply as well. I don't really see any difference between the two.

In my experience, if you clean and decontaminate and apply carefully, any modern product will work well. I wouldn't try to go 3 years, or "lifetime" with anything.

 

Wheels:
In my opinion its a must to do the wheels with ceramic.

Makes rinsing them take 1/3rd of the time

Use any one you like. Use the longest lasting kind.
Note you will not be able to use any harsh cleaners nor will you need to. Car wash will do.


Directions:
Take wheels off, clean with clay bar
Apply several coats of ceramic.
You dont have to worry about any streaks or leveling on the inside.
Dont have to worry about streaks on the outside either.
The instructions will tell you to buff after applying- dont..
Just apply as smooth as you can with supplied applicator on the front of the wheel.


This is the most current durable coating that I could read up on- but have no first hand experience. Because the ceramic coating (cquarzts)I applied 3 years ago on my wheels is still holdup great. https://www.autogeek.net/gtechniq-ex...t-coating.html apparently this is even more durable.

 

 

Thank you for your input but this would have been better served as a PM as it will only result in a back and forth pissing match and dampen the spirit of the thread I started. If you two would like to bicker, please do it over PM. Thank you.

 

OK, different house rules on this Forum....PM message accepted. No hard feelings, just stating my impression of things.

 

What gives, you want me to show you ceramic coating and bicker via pm with the guys on your back, who have never done it. Let me just give my cell number instead please.

 

For those asking to do it themselves, its crucial to realize this is one of the most 'disrupted' industries nowadays. Not by consumers looking to circumvent skilled artisans- but manufacturers themselves looking to circumvent the production biased environment of professionals and offer a superior alternative to end users- who can afford to be perfectionists- and care more for their prized possessions. There is a massive industry evolving overnight as result.


Manufacturers who supplied the car companies with polishing products have developed even better versions for the end user. Same is true of the hardware manufacturers such as buffers. Ceramic coating manufacturers/distributors have also gone directly to public. And done everything possible to allow you to get as good or better results. And foster a new art, which is most rewarding.

 

Hey Fellas,
Here is a video worth a million words that answers the question posted regarding ceramic coating- namely this type of spray ceramic coating.



But so that we can focus, lets put something to bed. When people have asked me on this forum to find them a detailer, I have put a phone call into my friend at cquartz, and had him call the detailer personally.


Back to subject. You will see in the video by a detailer that if you can wipe your car you can do this. But most importantly you can do this regularly, which would actually even be a detailer's dream come true, as that's the only way to effectively maintain the finish.


Here is why I recommend this no matter what shape your paint is in. Because it only makes drying easier and a simple wipeon ceramic does not need showroom paint to stick to it. Do you see why paint prep is necessary in one and not the other.

 

Now I'm even more confused! LOL! Should I use the QP ON or the Sonax?

 

Sorry rightfully confused, but now more confident.


You can go with either. I recommend Sonax due to first hand experience and solid reputation of company (1950).


P.s. I saw QP ON on Amazon for $70

 

The QP ON seems appealing because based on the video, the application of the product appears to be much easier; no buffing involved.

 

Go for it. It looks easier, and there is plenty there, so you can touch up whenever needed.


Their claims about working well on glass- be careful, try it on another car first. Car manufacturers like Tesla have warned against using ceramic products on windshield.


You can absolutely do the side windows and mirror.

 

https://www.pds-shop.ca/products/cop...-coating-100ml

 

Thanks, but they don't ship to the US. QP ON's authorized US Distributor wants $105 US. I think I'll stick with the Sonax for now.

 

What are your thoughts on an application of this with my 10" orbital buffer before I apply the Sonax?

http://www.meguiars.com/en/professio...tion-compound/

It's designed for a DA Polisher so how do you think it will work with a random orbital buffer? Recommended OPM is 4800 while my buffer is 3200 OPM.

 

First tell me do you have excessive/noticeable swirl marks?
You should not if you just got it and its a light color (light color cars gt washed less)

If you do, yes this is perfect, its foolproof. (I simply cannot think of another word- nothing implied)
If using a widely available brand on your supercar bothers you, (the fever will pass) use this, its the ultimate https://www.carpro-us.com/compounds/...lish-250-gram/

 

You might already know, the pad is what does the cutting with the aid of the abrasives.
Use this top secret pad if you want perfection even pros long for.
https://www.carpro-us.com/polishing-...ey-spider-pad/
Available in other sizes.
Its basically a pad that does all 3 stages. Perfect for your single step approach.

 

I do not have excessive swirl marks but there are some.

My buffer doesn't accommodate removable pads but utilizes bonnets. I was thinking to use microfiber bonnets in conjunction with the Meguiar's product.