Considering buying certified F Type
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Considering buying certified F Type
Hello and thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer me. I have a 2008 MERC E350 that now has 155K miles so I think I have about run this one to the ground.
I put an order in for a Tesla M3 in April of 2016 but now as I continue to wait I am reconsidering.
I am now looking at Maserati Ghibli and Jag F Type. I would buy certified just as I did my current ride.
Does the dealer have any room to negotiate price on certified for F Type. I found that MB did have some room but do not know how to price certified with Jag.
Any general thoughts on Jag from a model year comparison on what to possibly avoid?
Pretty sure I will go with something ~2 years old with less than 20K miles.
Any thoughts or insights are appreciated.
I put an order in for a Tesla M3 in April of 2016 but now as I continue to wait I am reconsidering.
I am now looking at Maserati Ghibli and Jag F Type. I would buy certified just as I did my current ride.
Does the dealer have any room to negotiate price on certified for F Type. I found that MB did have some room but do not know how to price certified with Jag.
Any general thoughts on Jag from a model year comparison on what to possibly avoid?
Pretty sure I will go with something ~2 years old with less than 20K miles.
Any thoughts or insights are appreciated.
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CPOs are nothing more than a used car with a manufacturer's warranty so naturally they can all be negotiated regardless of the manufacture. The Tesla and the Ghibli are quite different as they both have a back seat the F-Type lacks so not even in the same category. Current wholesale/Manheim numbers for a '08 E350 is between $4,700 to $6,000 with between 110K & 130K miles on their ODOs
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CPOs are nothing more than a used car with a manufacturer's warranty so naturally they can all be negotiated regardless of the manufacture. The Tesla and the Ghibli are quite different as they both have a back seat the F-Type lacks so not even in the same category. Current wholesale/Manheim numbers for a '08 E350 is between $4,700 to $6,000 with between 110K & 130K miles on their ODOs
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ndabunka (04-16-2018)
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Wow, 3 VERY different cars.
The CPO cars at Jaguar likely have room for haggle. In Canada they also qualify for dealer incentives and reduced financing and leasing rates.
I’m guessing the Ghilbi wont be nearly as interesting as the Jag to drive, and both wont be electric like the Tesla.
Of the three the Jaguar is the oldest platform and likely most “sorted”. But if you want room for four, and the sex appeal of a Jaguar, have you considered the new iPace? Its pricey, but very cool and its electric. I think they will be hitting dealer lots soon-ish.
I went Jaguar F Type R, but rarely drive mine and fuel economy is not a big deal. Lots of people have opted for the V6S and are very happy with the horse power and performance they get. the basic utility of the car is the same no matter what engine you choose and the engines and transmissions are all “known” entities, so there shouldn’t be any teething problems.
The CPO cars at Jaguar likely have room for haggle. In Canada they also qualify for dealer incentives and reduced financing and leasing rates.
I’m guessing the Ghilbi wont be nearly as interesting as the Jag to drive, and both wont be electric like the Tesla.
Of the three the Jaguar is the oldest platform and likely most “sorted”. But if you want room for four, and the sex appeal of a Jaguar, have you considered the new iPace? Its pricey, but very cool and its electric. I think they will be hitting dealer lots soon-ish.
I went Jaguar F Type R, but rarely drive mine and fuel economy is not a big deal. Lots of people have opted for the V6S and are very happy with the horse power and performance they get. the basic utility of the car is the same no matter what engine you choose and the engines and transmissions are all “known” entities, so there shouldn’t be any teething problems.
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I bought mine barely used 931 miles, and the Jaguar extended warranty eliminated any concerns I had about condition. Now with 8k miles, it has been confirmed, and is being serviced quite satisfactorily by Cole in WC, near you. Have fun! See you in the Wine Country, or at the Blackhawk museum.
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There have been some minor issues that MAY have been addressed since the F type's introduction; insulation on the rear springs, quarter panel to rocker movement, updated window felts, maybe a change to the HVAC vent raising motor......nothing too significant IMO.
There continue to be ongoing issues with O2 sensors, Battery problems, active exhaust switches and a couple other typical warranty type repairs.
The only big ones would be: If you want AWD that eliminates the early years. If you want a V6 with a manual tranny there have been a couple clutch revisions that you'd want to be aware of (sorry don't remember the years, but there is a big thread here) and lastly the infotainment center has been updated in the newest cars - early cars had some complaints with speaker rattle etc. on the Meridian system. I haven't noticed anything but I tend to drive with the stereo off and listening to the engine.
Hope this helps,
Dave
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I bought mine barely used 931 miles, and the Jaguar extended warranty eliminated any concerns I had about condition. Now with 8k miles, it has been confirmed, and is being serviced quite satisfactorily by Cole in WC, near you. Have fun! See you in the Wine Country, or at the Blackhawk museum.
Think I may need to visit Cole this weekend.................
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I bought the Peugeot to be different, non-German. Once distinct mistake. The worst built quality imaginable. A Yugo would have been better built. It was actually in the shop once a month for three straight years. The Ghibli doesn't seem to be going over very well. Last summer I heard the inventory was through the roof and the dealers were giving them away. Sad to say Maserati was a great marque when I was growing up. The original Ghibli was one of the most beautiful cars of all time.
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ndabunka (04-20-2018)
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Funny story was driving down the freeway a few months back and a guy driving a Maserati kept coming up next to me and dropping back. I hit the exhaust switch bypassing the mufflers and revved the engine a couple times, he dropped back and kept on dropping. He vanished in my rear view mirror. (we were in traffic so I sure as hell wasn't going to race him). It was pretty funny though.
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There haven't been much in the way of changes on the F types so there isn't a particular "year to avoid" or "year to prefer" IMO. I have a 2014 CPO that's been flawless.
There have been some minor issues that MAY have been addressed since the F type's introduction; insulation on the rear springs, quarter panel to rocker movement, updated window felts, maybe a change to the HVAC vent raising motor......nothing too significant IMO.
There continue to be ongoing issues with O2 sensors, Battery problems, active exhaust switches and a couple other typical warranty type repairs.
The only big ones would be: If you want AWD that eliminates the early years. If you want a V6 with a manual tranny there have been a couple clutch revisions that you'd want to be aware of (sorry don't remember the years, but there is a big thread here) and lastly the infotainment center has been updated in the newest cars - early cars had some complaints with speaker rattle etc. on the Meridian system. I haven't noticed anything but I tend to drive with the stereo off and listening to the engine.
Hope this helps,
Dave
There have been some minor issues that MAY have been addressed since the F type's introduction; insulation on the rear springs, quarter panel to rocker movement, updated window felts, maybe a change to the HVAC vent raising motor......nothing too significant IMO.
There continue to be ongoing issues with O2 sensors, Battery problems, active exhaust switches and a couple other typical warranty type repairs.
The only big ones would be: If you want AWD that eliminates the early years. If you want a V6 with a manual tranny there have been a couple clutch revisions that you'd want to be aware of (sorry don't remember the years, but there is a big thread here) and lastly the infotainment center has been updated in the newest cars - early cars had some complaints with speaker rattle etc. on the Meridian system. I haven't noticed anything but I tend to drive with the stereo off and listening to the engine.
Hope this helps,
Dave
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ndabunka (04-21-2018)
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Also, there was a significant change in 2016 with the F-Type R, changed from rear wheel drive to AWD. If you track the car, or run in snow, or are one to stomp on it, I think you would want the AWD. Note; there is a beautiful Silver / with red interior for sale over on Rennlist in classifieds asking in the $70s on a $112 MSRP car. Like many of us, I would prefer to buy from an enthusiast.
Cheers,
Dave
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