At 450hp, my V6S RWD is plenty manageable (of course, never any throttle mashing...you gotta know how to drive). In fact, the full DSC nannies are far too aggressive and pull too much power after 2nd and 3rd gear upshifts. Track DSC or no DSC at all is needed for best performance.

 

So you think if I could get a great deal on a V6 base and then add an ECU tune to get 416HP that I should still forego that in favor of the S?

 

Ab-SO-lutely!

 

I will voice some assumptions that could be viewed as uncharitable to directly answer your question. I think as far as spirited driving, you are going to do red light pull outs and occasionally take an on-ramp faster than it is safe. For this, optimal car is an AWD, as RWD car, especially base with open differential will lead to disappointment. Mashing throttle on V6 base you will get beat off the line by cheaper cars with less power, and I think this might bother you.

Personally, I think tuning is pointless outside of track conditions. You won't notice benefits of tuning in a RWD car well into reckless driving and roadside impounding territory.

That is, take Unhingd's tuned V6S and mine stock, put us side by side and 0 to 30 numbers are likely be identical. Well, actually I don't think he upgraded to new MP4S so I likely will pull ahead due to better traction. 30 to 60 he will probably gain a car length, and only 60 to 100 he will walk away from me. That last part, if done on the street will lead to "Oh, hello officer".

 

Your assumptions are correct. My spirited driving will be from the 0-45 mph, 30-70 mph range. I'll definitely forget about the base V6.

I would definitely feel safer in an AWD (plus I like how it comes with the Design Pack standard), but the only affordable one on the market at $57k is black, which hides the beautiful curves of the Jag in my opinion. The next cheapest is $67k. I'll continue to track the market for the next few months, but based on feedback from other members, I would have no hesitation getting RWD if that was my only choice.

 

You are forgetting the 85 lb-ft torque advantage I have at the low end. [Don't you just love forum racing.?]

 

My logic was that unless you are on a racing slicks that were warmed up, you can't put 100% of it down in first gear without losing grip. Normally, I can't go WOT in first gear without losing grip at the back with a stock tune. At best, on a warm day on a perfect asphalt I can touch WOT around 5000rpm in first gear. Are you seeing something else with your car?

Your car is faster, no doubt about it, you will beat stock on a drag strip every time any day. This might not translate to road driving, like in stoplight drag racing we were talking about. Especially if the road isn't perfect, such as oil drips and uneven surface you'd commonly find on the streets.

Again, we talking everyday driving and I am trying to convince intotheblue that he need AWD and to not bother with tuning as he won't get to benefit from it in his specific use case.

 

Not doubting your logic...just being a smart-***.

 

I would plan to get all season tires once the summer ones that come in the car wear out, I see some other forum members do this, but would this be usually discouraged?

 

EEEEWE!

 

You will have even harder time putting power down, as all season tires offer substantially less traction. However, you are less likely to skid in cold weather if you decide to drive your F-type year round.

 

Although some may discourage, the reality is that few of us are taking these cars to a track so All Season should be "just fine" for most. If you have a winter season where you live, go for the All Seasons. Continential DWS's are some of the best but there are now new offers from Michelin, Nitto and a few others that are respectible

 

Most of the time with my '15 R, If the car is moving a little bit at a stop sign, I usually stay in 2nd and do not go in 1st. Since I am not pushing the pedal like an idiot, I can easily go to redline without losing any grip on my RWD.
I mean, no need to floor it to get past 99.9% of the other cars out there

 

I have the BF Goodrich Comp2 A/S on my current BMW which are rated pretty highly compared to the Conti's, etc. I hear the summer tires don't like being below 40 degrees, which may be only a total of a month here in Maryland. Since I may be buying the car in Feb or March, it may a moot point until the next winter.

 

The Michelins have a lower limit of 50 degrees F stamped right into the sidewall. At anything under 100mph, they perform just fine down to zero.

 

That leaves me out.

 

I drove my R on relatively new oem tires in 26-29 degree weather on the highway with rolling hills. It does not inspire confidence.

 

So just an update, there was a 2016 R AWD that was for sale a few weeks ago for $60k but had 42k miles on it, but with my commute I would have gotten 15 months out of the remainder of the warranty. By the time I decided to take the plunge, it sold the night before.

So now I'm pretty set on wanting an R but figure I will never find a deal like that again for a 2016 by the time I plan on buying. Does anyone regret their R RWD purchase? I know that's probably a really dumb question I know, but is it too much car for any of you? Anyone with an S that has owned it for a while really wish they had an R instead?

I'd be totally happy with a V6 S RWD, but I don't think I would take the plunge on the ECU tune for a year or so after buying to preserve the warranty, so I'm just worried about having the feeling of wanting more.

On top of that, when trying to find a car with the right options, 770W system, design pack if possible, etc, I'm looking at only $3-4k less than a V8 so that route is making sense to me right now.

 

If you are wondering whether you'll be satisfied with the power of the stock V6S, you probably won't be. With a fully tuned and pullied V6 of any trim, you will be, unless you've already gotten used to the R.

 

I drove both and actually prefer the RWD in most situations. Once you get the hang of it, you really know where the limits are through lower-speed turns and how much you can let the back loose. The trade-off is that I’d never trust it going high-speed through, say, an interchange merge.