ECU Tuning Group | Jaguar F-Type SVR Tune & Pulley Package (video)
#21
08-20-2017, 08:08 PM
Didn't mean to start a debate on our own thread lol. We apologize for the confusion as our marketing department scales the horsepower and torque curves to fit them neatly on the same graph. In trying to do so, has thrown this whole conversation in a different direction. Again, sorry for the error.
Can you ping your marketing department to revise the graph? Your engineering department should have had eyes on it to point out that the numbers represented here are mathematically impossible.
For those of you participating in this thread with no other intentions but to stir the pot...please feel free to address your concerns with us in person at one of our many locations across the U.S. Because if I remember correctly, your McLaren tuner of choice in the NY area is no longer business correct? Luckily for you, we still are 
No need for keyboard warriors, there has got to be better things you could be doing with your time lol. Like we've mentioned before, we are not for everyone. We are just here to share our projects, no sales gimmicks or pushy methods. So if you're not interested, no problem. If you are? We here to help, it's really that simple. I guess that's why we're still around almost 3 decades later... #staytuned or #staybasic
No need for keyboard warriors, there has got to be better things you could be doing with your time lol. Like we've mentioned before, we are not for everyone. We are just here to share our projects, no sales gimmicks or pushy methods. So if you're not interested, no problem. If you are? We here to help, it's really that simple. I guess that's why we're still around almost 3 decades later... #staytuned or #staybasic
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#22
08-20-2017, 08:09 PM
#23
08-20-2017, 08:17 PM
Didn't mean to start a debate on our own thread lol. We apologize for the confusion as our marketing department scales the horsepower and torque curves to fit them neatly on the same graph. In trying to do so, has thrown this whole conversation in a different direction. Again, sorry for the error.
For those of you participating in this thread with no other intentions but to stir the pot...please feel free to address your concerns with us in person at one of our many locations across the U.S. Because if I remember correctly, your McLaren tuner of choice in the NY area is no longer business correct? Luckily for you, we still are
No need for keyboard warriors, there has got to be better things you could be doing with your time lol. Like we've mentioned before, we are not for everyone. We are just here to share our projects, no sales gimmicks or pushy methods. So if you're not interested, no problem. If you are? We here to help, it's really that simple. I guess that's why we're still around almost 3 decades later... #staytuned or #staybasic
For those of you participating in this thread with no other intentions but to stir the pot...please feel free to address your concerns with us in person at one of our many locations across the U.S. Because if I remember correctly, your McLaren tuner of choice in the NY area is no longer business correct? Luckily for you, we still are
No need for keyboard warriors, there has got to be better things you could be doing with your time lol. Like we've mentioned before, we are not for everyone. We are just here to share our projects, no sales gimmicks or pushy methods. So if you're not interested, no problem. If you are? We here to help, it's really that simple. I guess that's why we're still around almost 3 decades later... #staytuned or #staybasic
They are representing your business with their material - and that material is potentially damaging to you if you are presenting it as fact - you are posting it here as proof of power gains from your modifications - why would you want it to be incorrect and cause people to cast doubt on your reputation as is happening now?
Clearly you know it's incorrect technically so you shouldn't be posting it.
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#24
08-20-2017, 08:18 PM
Makes sense. However, there's no confusion on my part. If horsepower and torque were scaled differently beforehand then put on the same scale and not adjusted appropriately, that would throw the figures off. As you said, that's what happened here and therefore the data is incorrect.
Can you ping your marketing department to revise the graph? Your engineering department should have had eyes on it to point out that the numbers represented here are mathematically impossible.
Nope, not a keyboard warrior looking to stir the pot in any way...just another techie with too much money living across the bridge from your head office. I agree, your products aren't for everyone since most people are limited by their bank account. Thankfully, that's not the case for me, which is why I was leaning towards ECU Tuning Group (take a look at my other posts).
Can you ping your marketing department to revise the graph? Your engineering department should have had eyes on it to point out that the numbers represented here are mathematically impossible.
Nope, not a keyboard warrior looking to stir the pot in any way...just another techie with too much money living across the bridge from your head office. I agree, your products aren't for everyone since most people are limited by their bank account. Thankfully, that's not the case for me, which is why I was leaning towards ECU Tuning Group (take a look at my other posts).
#25
08-21-2017, 02:10 PM
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Not pro or con...just looking for actual data. As an engineer myself, I understand the challenge you have with the marketing department. Just have them post the raw numbers and graphs from the dyno. Marketing recreations of technical data, regardless of industry, always look hokie and contrived.
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#26
08-21-2017, 02:48 PM
Agreed. Charts which represent BHP aren't all that valuable to begin with as they're merely numbers extrapolated from WHP. Adding an arbitrary factor for "drivetrain loss" just muddies the water. I've worked with all dynamometer types on the market and none put out charts in that format, so exporting the figures to run them through your data charting/visualization software of choice further exacerbates this. It's obvious that the engine is still in the car and not on an engine-dyno, so it's always best to just post the actual dyno charts.
Charts and graphs representing BHP are more so for rookies who don't comprehend differences between various dynos, WHP, and BHP. This is why tuners who cater to a more amateur audience speak in BHP as it aligns with what their customers read in magazines and manufacturer spec sheets.
Looking forward to visiting the shop in the near future and working with Goshan and the rest of the team.
Charts and graphs representing BHP are more so for rookies who don't comprehend differences between various dynos, WHP, and BHP. This is why tuners who cater to a more amateur audience speak in BHP as it aligns with what their customers read in magazines and manufacturer spec sheets.
Looking forward to visiting the shop in the near future and working with Goshan and the rest of the team.
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#27
08-21-2017, 05:51 PM
Charts and graphs representing BHP are more so for rookies who don't comprehend differences between various dynos, WHP, and BHP. This is why tuners who cater to a more amateur audience speak in BHP as it aligns with what their customers read in magazines and manufacturer spec sheets.
Looking forward to visiting the shop in the near future and working with Goshan and the rest of the team.
Looking forward to visiting the shop in the near future and working with Goshan and the rest of the team.
#28
09-20-2017, 12:18 PM
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#29
09-20-2017, 12:59 PM
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The OEM upper pulley is very hard to remove. If it is bent during the removal process, the swap is irreversible, as the part is not available as a separate purchase. I have been trying to locate an OEM upper pulley that is straight.
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#30
09-20-2017, 01:34 PM
But the lower pulley can be easily replaced without damage to any components. Something to keep in mind, and why I went this route.
#31
09-20-2017, 03:39 PM
Great question, and Unhingd is also correct. If not removed correctly and damaged, it is not reusable or replaceable from the dealer. That is the reason why we've created our propitiatory pulley puller for the 3.0L & 5.0L supercharged application, this ensures no damage occurs to the factory component. Every pulley swap we do, the client gets their factory pulley back intact, although most end up using it as a very heavy paper-weight lol.
#32
09-20-2017, 03:57 PM
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#34
09-25-2017, 12:37 AM
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