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Old 02-08-2019, 09:07 AM
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I have 2016 ftype r awd
I can hear a sound in the mid of engine when acceleration
Its like soft (tack, tack, tack) and it will increase when i accelerate more
The dealer says its from engine timing case but they need to take out the whole engine (sad)
I bought a car from usa copart then delivered to dubai i didnt remove the old oil i just add new 5w 20 castrol
i dont want to take out the engin anyother solution.
the car.
Video above u can hear the sound when i accelerate

 
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:53 PM
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From the video, it sounds like an exhaust leak between the exhaust manifold and engine head.
 
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:55 PM
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Yes, it sounds like exhaust rather than a mechanical issue.


 
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
From the video, it sounds like an exhaust leak between the exhaust manifold and engine head.
dealer said its from engine !!!!! Also when i open the hood i can hear that sound under the supercharge !? But i will hear it if i push the gas even its in parking gear
so u still think its from engine head and exhaust manifold?
 
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I have no idea what the supercharger isolator issue sounds like, but here's the TSB from 2014 for your information. I'm sure others will comment if I'm off base...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4itzi5b6rw...Noise.pdf?dl=0
 
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS
I have no idea what the supercharger isolator issue sounds like, but here's the TSB from 2014 for your information. I'm sure others will comment if I'm off base...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4itzi5b6rw...Noise.pdf?dl=0
ty for ur comment
but its not from supercharge cuz the dealer disable the SC and the sound still coming from engine
 
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Pull the engine cover and poke around with an automotive stethoscope (~$20) before you let them pull the engine. Given the frequency of the “ticking” the sound appears to be limited to one cylinder (eg. exhaust leak at a specific exhaust port, bent valve, etc.) Not a frequency you would expect from the timing case.
 

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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Pull the engine cover and poke around with an automotive stethoscope (~$20) before you let them pull the engine. Given the frequency of the “ticking” the sound appears to be limited to one cylinder (eg. exhaust leak at a specific exhaust port, bent valve, etc.) Not a frequency you would expect from the timing case.
bad news
I filled my car 2 liter of engine oil cuz it was half then i start driving very fast using sport mode sudden,
My car stopped working when i was in the traffic light then oil leaking between gearbox and the engine.
dealer said its from the engine they tried to start the engine but not work!!!
so what should i do !!!!!??

 

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Ouch. That’s more leakage than a simple main seal would produce. Your car should still be under warranty. Let them deal with it.
 
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What process did you use for verifying the oil level before filling with the engine with the additional 2 liters of new oil?
 
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Originally Posted by silver86
What process did you use for verifying the oil level before filling with the engine with the additional 2 liters of new oil?
This.

It seems likely that you added 2 liters in a situation that actually called for none. The electronic display doesn't have the capability of telling you that the pan is "half" full.
 
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Originally Posted by Nati
This.

It seems likely that you added 2 liters in a situation that actually called for none. The electronic display doesn't have the capability of telling you that the pan is "half" full.
+1. If it showed at half on the level gauge, you were down only 0.5l
 
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OP bought the car from copart.... may well be a junker with a salvage title and doubt any warranty. Caveat emptor, don't add oil and drive fast with car making funny noises. Still, hate that it went TU.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Ouch. That’s more leakage than a simple main seal would produce. Your car should still be under warranty. Let them deal with it.

no warranty

but what do u think happen to engine
 
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Does the engine spin freely by hand or is it completely locked up? That's a lot of oil -- was there damage to the pan from the initial accident? A full history of what's happened to the car would be a good starting point for us to actually help.
 
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I brought my car from copart with run and drive tittle (salvage)
Added oil to it.
Sounded like a bag of bolts.
Jaguar dealer said it was the timing case.
Advised not to drive it.
Then i Added 2 litres of oil without making sure it need that 2 liter or not.
The while driving the car for 20 km ihe engine stopped suddenly and the car start leaking as the pic show
It packed up with contents of the engine underneath the car and now it won't turn over.
 
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Originally Posted by addict
Does the engine spin freely by hand or is it completely locked up? That's a lot of oil -- was there damage to the pan from the initial accident? A full history of what's happened to the car would be a good starting point for us to actually help.
read the summry above
yes the engine completely locked
 
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Originally Posted by mohammed m
I brought my car from copart with run and drive tittle (salvage)
Added oil to it.
Sounded like a bag of bolts.
Jaguar dealer said it was the timing case.
Advised not to drive it.
Then i Added 2 litres of oil without making sure it need that 2 liter or not.
Then while driving the car for 20 km ihe engine stopped suddenly and the car start leaking as the pic show
It packed up with contents of the engine underneath the car and now it won't turn over.
If you won't take the dealer's advice, why would we think you'd take our advice?
 
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This sounds like it will need an engine, either new or used dropped into it.

Most likely either the timing chain broke and/or skipped a few teeth, which has now resulted in bent valves, damaged pistons, and scored cylinder bores.

Time to look for a new (or rebuilt or used) engine to install.

A quick engine tear-down should confirm if this is the case.

Guess-timate of $15 to $20K all-in.
 
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I wish i had seen this thread sooner, i would have recommended you not to drive it, mine needed an engine for this exact noise. it was timing chain guides and subsequent damage from all plastic/metal in the oil, also needed a new supercharger snout/bearing but that was a completely different issue.. Luckily it was under warranty and JLR took care of it due to all the maintenance being up today and it was full of oil. My total on the invoice if not under warranty was $52k. Good luck, Sorry to see this.
 

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