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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 05:41 PM
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That's a screenshotI took from the configurator.. ..and you changed the 'brow' of the lamp..
Its better, but it still cuts straight lines..
 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 06:10 PM
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What do you think Dan?



 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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... Droopy ?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 06:20 PM
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What do you think, Q&C...

Meet "whiskers" , something like this was a hit in the 70'ties, I think it whas Lamborghini ..

It is not a grille like a rock protection on a Land Rover. It is a louvred panel.

 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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leave it in germany they could have made a better one , come back callum
 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan_NL
Amazing work Dan. I can see you have an eye for design. I see what you did in following the curves, and yes it now absolutely looks like everything flows properly from one plane to the other.
You can sell this as a light protector.

 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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It's not a 4x4 and its not a light protector either. Maybe the stripes are stitches to heal the wound..

I have the image in my mind of a '60-ties car with vertical louvres in its front fender covering the headlights in part. But I can not remember the name. Famous in bright green colour...

Very rough principal. But what I have in mind its almost overlapping. I think its not alowed.. ..would be a pedestrian grater..



But just simpel and honest design, following the lines [ this very example fits straight in the F-Type] ... .. no straight lines here, no 'meat-cleaver' cuts.. .. the lines flow..

They made a 'cut-line' above the light, but its functional and the edge of the bumper.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 08:40 PM
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Q&C, here is how what you are doing to F-type looks like to me:


 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 02:46 AM
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That one has been done
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 04:20 AM
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It 'looks' like Jaguar has a thing with failing headlight designs...
Maybe they could get an external designer to shine a light on that [..not Callum..] .

Maybe Clarkson with one of his 'moodboards' .. ..it would difficult to make it worse then it is..
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_NL
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It 'looks' like Jaguar has a thing with failing headlight designs...
Maybe they could get an external designer to shine a light on that [..not Callum..] .

Maybe Clarkson with one of his 'moodboards' .. ..it would difficult to make it worse then it is..
I’m guessing Callum had nothing to do with the headlight or facia refreshes. They would have been better executed otherwise.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I’m guessing Callum had nothing to do with the headlight or facia refreshes. They would have been better executed otherwise.
Indeed, if he had been involved it wouldn't have looke like it does now..
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 07:55 AM
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In the old time as they where not able to use the headlight as a design part, as they where ugly and big, they had no choice but to hide them.
I had a few of this cars with mechanic unfolding headlights, ugly when unfolded but anyway in the dark evening the general shape was not so important.
Opel GT, Fiero, Matra Murena. So they always tried even in this old time to not cut inside the design line of the cars.
And today is much easier for designers. What I cannot understand in this case because anyway they must change most body front part in the MY21 version,
so why not be morecourageous and make a new front design ? But stay a rounded shape. Now the changements on the backlights is bullsh*t. Just
for this small "Chicane design " spent the money of the company in reshaping and retooling of the metal sheets considering such small market part,
is for me as commercial not understandable.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Cleantex
.. make a new front design ? But stay a rounded shape. Now the changements on the backlights is bullsh*t...
Exactly ! They got their pioryties wrong ! If they had invested more in the front, the I6 line engine could have been accomodated too : they removed the bar,
that is 8 cm, only 8 more centimeters and it would have fitted...
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 08:22 AM
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Here the link of Callum's new company :
https://www.callumdesigns.com/
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_NL
It 'looks' like Jaguar has a thing with failing headlight designs...
No Jaguar once made the most beautiful lights ever fitted on a car- the etpye
They have also been beholden to that heritage and reference, its a mixed blessing.
Because more than half the buyers would be upset if the old was not incorporated into the new.

They made the slow transition, my car's headlights are almost a replica of the etype and much of the car is.
The Fype was designed to help get away from being held hostage to the etype.
The transition is becoming easier as the typical buyer of Jaguar and their memory is dying out.
Mercedes did the same thing with their iconic headlights.

BMW will never get away from the stupid kidneys, even on electric cars.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 11:19 AM
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Now also taste are different from country to country.
But imagine one moment a redesign of the headlights that Callum made for the Vanquish 25, also on the F-Type.
You respect the legacy, the modernity and the upper class look. Its exactly the coming back from the 2020 look,
that the apprentice designers, staying in the Jaguar company, did copy from the Vantage.



 

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