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Old 01-01-2018, 05:14 PM
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Question Fitting 380mm Red Calipers on base F-Type with 18 Vela wheels

Hey Guys, so I came cross a set of OEM 380mm Red Calipers and Rotors and I have a couple of questions.
  1. Does it fit my base F-Type with 18 Vela wheels?
  2. Can I just replace them myself or do i have to take it to the dealer?
  3. My F-Type is still under CPO warranty, does the 380mm set void any warranty?
  4. I have attached some pictures, do they look okay? I know the rotors have some rust on them, but these are take-offs from a 5000 mile car so I should be able to sand off the rust right?
Thanks guys.
 
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:20 PM
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take a 19 wheels and you will be good i have the 380 also on 19''
 
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:42 PM
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18" Vela wheels will not fit over the 380 mm calipers, you will need to upgrade to at least F-Type OEM 19" wheels. Very few if any after-market 19" wheels will fit over the 380 mm calipers, but most 20" rims will fit.
You will also need the larger splash shields which go with the 380 mm rotors, as those rotors won't fit inside the existing splash shields.
It's a job you can fairly easily do yourself, but there could be a major problem with mounting the caliper holders to the hubs, it is possible that the mounting holes won't line up. They probably will line up but maybe someone in the know can advise, although I'm not aware of anyone ever trying this before. I upgraded the rear brakes on my F-Type from 326 mm to 376 mm and the mounting holes lined up perfectly, so with any luck the same will apply to the front brakes going from 355 mm to 380 mm. You could try measuring the distance between the existing mounting bolts then compare that to the distance between the new mounting bolt holes and if they are identical you may be in luck, but then again it could be that the only way to tell for sure is to try a test fit of one of the calipers.
As for warranty, I really don't know. I would argue that you have simply fitted brakes that were an OEM option from the start so no effect on warranty, but JLR might not agree.
 
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:08 PM
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Update - I've done a little research and I'm now 99% sure the 380 mm calipers will bolt right up to a base F-Type with no problem. They bolt to the front "knuckles" and the front knuckle parts are the same across the F-Type range, the RHS is part # C2Z20170 and the LHS is part # C2Z20172.
 
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:41 AM
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Since you will be opening the brake lines, you will need a computerized bleeding which only dealer can do. If you are near a dealer, you could drive caustiously to them after the brake job. I wouldn’t try a long freeway drive.
 
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Originally Posted by Buckingham
Since you will be opening the brake lines, you will need a computerized bleeding which only dealer can do. If you are near a dealer, you could drive caustiously to them after the brake job. I wouldn’t try a long freeway drive.
Why?
When I changed the rear brakes I had to bleed both rear lines and I simply did it the old-fashioned way - plastic tube over the bleed nipple into a container containing an inch of fresh fluid with the end of the tube under the surface, crack the bleed nipple, have a helper steadily depress the brake pedal, keep the brake fluid reservoir topped up, keep going until nothing but steady fluid with no trace of air is coming through the plastic tube, then re-tighten the bleed nipple. Both sides done this way and the brakes work perfectly, I can't see how the front brakes would be any different.
I've also bled the brakes on both my old XFS and XFR this way, again with zero problems.
Or are you saying that removing and replacing the brake lines is different and the ABS needs to be recalibrated?
 
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How sure are you that the rotors are true and not unevenly worn? I'd have them checked for sure and would probably get new rotors. Not expensive if you get aftermarket ones. And will save hassle later on.
 
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Originally Posted by BritCars
How sure are you that the rotors are true and not unevenly worn? I'd have them checked for sure and would probably get new rotors. Not expensive if you get aftermarket ones. And will save hassle later on.
If they really are only 5,000 miles old then it's unlikely they are unevenly worn, and even if they were a brake shop could skim them nice and flat and clean for around $20 a pop, a lot cheaper than buying new rotors.
 
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Does anyone know the part number of the 380mm splash shield? I cannot seem to find it anywhere.
 
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
Does anyone know the part number of the 380mm splash shield? I cannot seem to find it anywhere.
You need a signature block. What year & model? AWD vs RWD makes a difference.

You can figure it out from here:
http://parts.jaguarreno.com/v-2016-j...--front-brakes

The 380mm rotors don't come with a splash shield, only a small air deflector the size of a business card.
 

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Thanks! I was looking for a traditional circular splash guard as opposed to the small rectangular piece so completely glossed over this. It looks like the 355 and 380mm rotors use the same splash shields. I guess I'll find out. Thanks again.

https://parts.jaguarpalmbeach.com/p/.../C2D51776.html
 
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
Thanks! I was looking for a traditional circular splash guard as opposed to the small rectangular piece so completely glossed over this. It looks like the 355 and 380mm rotors use the same splash shields. I guess I'll find out. Thanks again.

https://parts.jaguarpalmbeach.com/p/.../C2D51776.html
Yep...that’s roughly what mine looks like.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Yep...that’s roughly what mine looks like.
Same here.
I wouldn't bother buying or fitting a pair, they are so small that they must be pretty much useless.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Yep...that’s roughly what mine looks like.
Originally Posted by OzXFR
Same here.
I wouldn't bother buying or fitting a pair, they are so small that they must be pretty much useless.
Good to know. I couldn’t imagine them being incredibly useful at that size...
 
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:52 AM
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From an engineering perspective adding weight to the wheels with bigger rotors, wheels and tires does not help acceleration.

Some folks can feel the difference.

In a street car I suspect bigger brakes are of minimum value.
 
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Do they stock really look like this at the backside?
Looking at the paint, they look like being machined after painting, which would be an odd practice imo.
 
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Originally Posted by KVO
Do they stock really look like this at the backside?
Looking at the paint, they look like being machined after painting, which would be an odd practice imo.
Yes, that’s stock. Either machined after painting or screened off before painting. Otherwise the machine markings would not be legible.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Otherwise the machine markings would not be legible.
Did notice that, but in my business it is not exceptional to readd original references to a re-machined part, whether or not with a reference to a new/updated drawing.

Still weird looking caliper, even more compared to high-end (aftermarket) calipers...
 
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