I love my F type, but...
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I love my F type, but...
If Tesla can deliver on that new roadster in a couple years, my F type would be gone in 60 seconds. Tesla may not look quite as good, but a 2+2 seater and an 8.9 sec quarter mile, are you kidding me? Plus a 250 MPH top speed and a 600 mile range on a charge. That car would check all the boxes for me at least. And the first thousand cars, seems like they'd have serious collector car potential.
That said, I wonder if Musk can really deliver on the promise. Bob Lutz recently went on a rant, he's convinced Tesla will go out of business in a couple years. Not sure I agree with him, but I must admit I don't trust Tesla enough to prepay for a car 2 or more years out - or even a $50K deposit on the ones after the first thousand units.
Anyone else salivating over the Tesla Roadster?
That said, I wonder if Musk can really deliver on the promise. Bob Lutz recently went on a rant, he's convinced Tesla will go out of business in a couple years. Not sure I agree with him, but I must admit I don't trust Tesla enough to prepay for a car 2 or more years out - or even a $50K deposit on the ones after the first thousand units.
Anyone else salivating over the Tesla Roadster?
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If Tesla can deliver on that new roadster in a couple years, my F type would be gone in 60 seconds. Tesla may not look quite as good, but a 2+2 seater and an 8.9 sec quarter mile, are you kidding me? Plus a 250 MPH top speed and a 600 mile range on a charge. That car would check all the boxes for me at least. And the first thousand cars, seems like they'd have serious collector car potential.
That said, I wonder if Musk can really deliver on the promise. Bob Lutz recently went on a rant, he's convinced Tesla will go out of business in a couple years. Not sure I agree with him, but I must admit I don't trust Tesla enough to prepay for a car 2 or more years out - or even a $50K deposit on the ones after the first thousand units.
Anyone else salivating over the Tesla Roadster?
That said, I wonder if Musk can really deliver on the promise. Bob Lutz recently went on a rant, he's convinced Tesla will go out of business in a couple years. Not sure I agree with him, but I must admit I don't trust Tesla enough to prepay for a car 2 or more years out - or even a $50K deposit on the ones after the first thousand units.
Anyone else salivating over the Tesla Roadster?
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Burt Gummer (11-19-2017)
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I'm sure the 600 mile range unit will not be the same as the 8.9 second quarter mile unit.
That being said, you can buy a demon now that will do the same thing and it won't cost $250k and require you to wait two years to do so...
That being said, you can buy a demon now that will do the same thing and it won't cost $250k and require you to wait two years to do so...
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technician (11-19-2017)
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Really I wonder how long the straight line 0-60 holds your attention - I know there are more HP endowed cars out there but honestly they don't interest me. Can't see ever being a Dodge/Corvette owner and whilst from a geek point of view the Teslas are nice, I don't think I'll ever commit to owning one. When self driving takes over, just shoot me if I'm still alive.
Of course at the price of a single roadster, you could probably have 2.5 Jags to juggle between weekdays and weekends ;-)
Of course at the price of a single roadster, you could probably have 2.5 Jags to juggle between weekdays and weekends ;-)
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Those are interesting claims. In a simple D.C. motor, torque falls off linearly with RPMs. I'm sure Tesla is doing clever things with the motors, but to get the kind of power you'd need for 250MPH, I'd think they'd need a transmission, which they might not need for slower cars. And maybe JATO.
Characteristics of a simple D.C. motor, for you math/physics geeks.
http://lancet.mit.edu/motors/motors3.html
Characteristics of a simple D.C. motor, for you math/physics geeks.
http://lancet.mit.edu/motors/motors3.html
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Jagged Wire (11-19-2017)
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I love the idea but if the fit is anything like the first roadster there's no possible way. Years ago at the big SF Auto Show I asked the Lotus rep if I could sit in the cars. They were roped off but I must have looked reasonably trustworthy. Anyway ...
I was able to stuff myself into the Elise but egress was less than elegant. I had to put my hands on the floor and crawl out. It would not make for a James Bond-ish arrival at The Club. The Evora was slightly better, but only slightly.
I was able to stuff myself into the Elise but egress was less than elegant. I had to put my hands on the floor and crawl out. It would not make for a James Bond-ish arrival at The Club. The Evora was slightly better, but only slightly.
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LobsterClaws (11-19-2017)
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$250k won't be a realistic price. MRSP + at least $50k adm if/when the car is ever sold.
For $300k or so I'd much rather have a Huracan. Style, sound and presence.
Yes, the sewing machine Tesla would be faster, but in the tightest surveillance state ever known with a cop on every other corner - bfd.
Pull up to anyone on the street in the Tesla and ask if they want a ride than do the same with the Huracan. One is a bowl of oatmeal, the other a spicy Italian dish.
For $300k or so I'd much rather have a Huracan. Style, sound and presence.
Yes, the sewing machine Tesla would be faster, but in the tightest surveillance state ever known with a cop on every other corner - bfd.
Pull up to anyone on the street in the Tesla and ask if they want a ride than do the same with the Huracan. One is a bowl of oatmeal, the other a spicy Italian dish.
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We test drove a Model X a couple weeks ago to replace a Cayenne GTS. It was an overall awesome car and we had a blast. But when we got back in the Cayenne and started it, it barked loud enough to turn heads. My wife just shook her head and said she can't give up that sound for anything! (Oh, it's straight piped so maybe a little louder than normal ;D)
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That said, I wonder if Musk can really deliver on the promise. Bob Lutz recently went on a rant, he's convinced Tesla will go out of business in a couple years. Not sure I agree with him, but I must admit I don't trust Tesla enough to prepay for a car 2 or more years out - or even a $50K deposit on the ones after the first thousand units.
Anyone else salivating over the Tesla Roadster?
I would miss the crackles and pops.
FYI:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/02/tesl...eliveries.html
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Bernie Madhoff is a conman. Elon Musk? No.
If any criticism can be leveled at Elon it's that his ambition is limitless.
I honestly feel he is one of the geniuses of our time, way above the likes of Jobs. How many industries is he disrupting? Automotive, travel, energy - he's even putting rockets into space. He is literally changing the world around us.
He is trying to deliver on his promises, he is delivering cars, built a huge battery manufacturing facility (the largest the world has seen), built a recharging network to power his cars. It's just that reality may not be able to keep pace with how fast he wants to move forward. He has put rockets into space - and landed them again. His competition are literally knuckle draggers trying to fathom how to play in this new world they find themselves in.
If he fails - and he might, the change in course for the industries he has disrupted has taken place and others will continue the journey.
I think he should be applauded.
If any criticism can be leveled at Elon it's that his ambition is limitless.
I honestly feel he is one of the geniuses of our time, way above the likes of Jobs. How many industries is he disrupting? Automotive, travel, energy - he's even putting rockets into space. He is literally changing the world around us.
He is trying to deliver on his promises, he is delivering cars, built a huge battery manufacturing facility (the largest the world has seen), built a recharging network to power his cars. It's just that reality may not be able to keep pace with how fast he wants to move forward. He has put rockets into space - and landed them again. His competition are literally knuckle draggers trying to fathom how to play in this new world they find themselves in.
If he fails - and he might, the change in course for the industries he has disrupted has taken place and others will continue the journey.
I think he should be applauded.
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Jagged Wire (11-22-2017)
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Yep, IMHO Elon Musk is one of the greatest and smartest con men of all time.
He has milked several billion $ from the US government by way of subsidies, grants, tax breaks etc etc, mostly by pandering to the idiotic notion that he is helping to "save the planet" with his electric cars and battery power back-up systems.
He has milked several billion $ from the US government by way of subsidies, grants, tax breaks etc etc, mostly by pandering to the idiotic notion that he is helping to "save the planet" with his electric cars and battery power back-up systems.
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