Frankly, I’d take a HID light any day over this LED nonsense that appears to be designed to bankrupt people and make them hate their car. I assume the HID-based light are quite a bit more reasonable even new.`

 

I now have a hybrid set up as I replaced the HID globes with LED globes!
That was the reason last time for removing the headlights.
The stock HID globes were not bad but could be better so years ago I replaced them with stronger/brighter/whiter globes, stock 4,600k vs upgraded 6,000k.
They were better but I wanted better still so when I discovered fairly cheap plug and play LED globes rated at 7,000k I gave them a try and haven't looked back.
Much brighter and whiter light and zero problems after some four years now.

 

It's the same issue in many countries all over the world where extended warranties don't cover the lights and JLR don't care. I can imagine JLR got quite a few angry letters from clients but they're just not playing ball.

As you may have seen in the more up to date thread about this in the UK forum, Valeo are now producing a new version of the lights which supposedly have been improved and won't fail.

 

Not really defending JLR here, but issues with modern LED headlights like this happen across many brands. It's common with BMWs - my wife's X7 had a marker light issue and we had to fight the dealer. They good willed us a big chunk of the repairs but it still was north of 2k from us.

For those of you with 3rd party insurance policies (dealers will sell you these), most of them will not cover lights. Its because LED headlights are expensive and they insurance companies know them to fail across multiple brands, not just JLR. If you buy a 3rd party policy, get an exclusion one and read it top to bottom to understand what it covers. If it is a JLR warranty (i.e. CPO extended) I imagine they would cover it.

It sucks, I've been there (not with my F-Type), but it is the reality of owning any high end car that's out of factory warranty.

 

Oh, well that’s great news. I guess Valeo is the manufacturer of the original ones that were failing as well?

OP, you should contact Valeo ideally and perhaps somehow try and make sure that you get the new and improved version. Perhaps ask them how to know you are. It sure would suck to buy another one at these crazy prices and get another one of the ones that are bound to fail.

 

What's the new and old part numbers to verify the upgrade?

 

Check out the UK thread here: https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewto...6411&start=180

 

Thanks Major, great info for the OP and everyone else.

 

Yeah, and unless JLR can be blamed for f**ing up when they set the specifications for the light design this ultimately feels like the French manufacturer Valeo's fault.

JLR should have sorted this out together with Valeo and the procedure for owners should be really simple - a recall or 100% (or near 100%) cost coverage for a replacement light if an owner brings it up with a JLR dealer, regardless of if there's a valid warranty or not.

People have been chasing both Valeo directly and JLR about this to no avail. I can see the short term commercial rationale of Valeo and JLR to just ignore and deny this issue but they both deserve to be named and shamed and get the reputational damage that this kind of mismanagement causes.

 

I have a 2017, built late 2016 that suffered from the lens microcracking. I bought it in 2020, with 18 months of factory warranty still on it. I assembled all the documentation, original Jaguar TSB, etc. The dealer/SM acknowledged the issue, took photos in 2021 and then nothing happened. Partly my fault as I did not pound on the table or raise my voice, just asked about it time after time. This last fall, dealer got a new SM, and I took it up with him. It took until this past April, but I got the new headlights (Vision Pack, the swivelers) I don't know how it was orchestrated, and I believe those HLs are about $3500 USD new. Researching now to learn how to prevent the microcracking from happening again.
We also have a 2018 Corvette (bought new) and at about 11,000 miles and 6 years in, part of the dash gauge lighting died. One would think that this is a usage based issue, rather than age. By that time the car was out of warranty, and dealer quoted $1500 for repair. We weren't happy. When we came back to pick up the car, the invoice was $300, probably covering the labor time.
As mentioned in a prior post, things like this happen across mfg. lines.

 

I don’t think most people have a problem with random failures. This is cars. It’s when evidence starts showing something as being a clear failure that is coming, and that it will repeat if parts are not updated. Those are the ones that get car people in a tissy ;-0