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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 07:12 PM
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Came across this today, sort of a continuation of the CX75 theme, available at a video game center near you (and nowhere else!)

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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 05:01 AM
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Absolutely loved this.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tberg
Came across this today, sort of a continuation of the CX75 theme, available at a video game center near you (and nowhere else!)

All-Electric Jaguar Vision GT Coupe Revealed
I love the look of the CX75 and it should have been the Halo car that lauched Jag and the F-Type into greatness. But the propulsion system was too expensive and complicated. It was an interesting exercise because it illustrates the failure of low carbon at the tailpipe for the US market.

Americans want muscle, not efficiency. For all the early chasis faults of the C8, the domestic popularity of the new normally aspirated 6.2L V8 Corvette is testimony to what the US customer is buying: big displacement, simple, cheap power.

Europeans seem to want, as a priority, low carbon at the tailpipe, something American sportscar buyers view as political nonsense not related to 1320 times.

Regardless of the political issues or virtue signalling, until Jag sportscar designers accept this dichotomy in US/European market prioities, the F-Type will continue to full extinction in the US market. The evolution of the F-Type in th US needs more power, more volume, more speed, plus some weight and price relief.
 

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Europeans seem to want, as a priority, low carbon at the tailpipe, something American sportscar buyers view as political nonsense not related to 1320 times.
European bureaucrats and misers, not everyone.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 11:48 PM
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European bureaucrats and misers, not everyone.
To clarify, that's the same in the US as far as out of touch, more globally loyal regulators go. But the US sportscar community rejects that direction outright.

I get the feeling the European community, with obvious exceptions, want fewer cylinders and lower tailpipe CO2 for some reason. I can understand it for economy models, but the CX75 having a hybrid 1.6L 4-banger? WTF is that about? It's not a Prius.

Jag is off the rails with this obsession with carbon emissions, at least for the US market. It's why they are suffering. In the US, no sportscar enthusiast wants or buys into low tailpipe low emissions being an actual thing.

So as far as Jaguars of the future advertising grams of CO2 per mile instead of HP per dollar? Not here, anyway.
 

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Personally, I would like to have more room to get in/out of this wide car. So it's not the worst idea from a practical POV. Seems stupid expensive for a set of complicated hinges, though.
 
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Originally Posted by RacerX
Jag is off the rails with this obsession with carbon emissions, at least for the US market. It's why they are suffering. In the US, no sportscar enthusiast wants or buys into low tailpipe low emissions being an actual thing.

So as far as Jaguars of the future advertising grams of CO2 per mile instead of HP per dollar? Not here, anyway.
Sadly, European car makers are hamstrung by having to meet certain emission targets across their vehicle range, so making a fire-breathing "gas guzzler" would require some offset in the rest of the fleet to compensate. That's the balancing act Jaguar has to perform.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 05:58 PM
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Whatever we think of the design, they will have to sell a lot more cars in China before even thinking of pushing this project through
 
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