Need new tires on my R, any suggestions?
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Yeah in all fairness, I split daily driver duty with this one and the GTR and have a long commute...about 25 miles each way. So most of those highway miles are just cruising. I drive it harder on surface streets, which is a much smaller percentage of miles driven, plus there's a ton of traffic here, so opportunities to really open it up are pretty rare.
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Was that pre and post VAP tune and other mods?
Good point. Upper pulley and Tune was done at 5k. Lower pulley and retune was done right after the second set of PSSs was installed.
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Wow! Great review!
I have tested the following tires on a track (not racing) on the F-Type, it was a V8R AWD on a track with a separate wet skid-pad and slalom later in the day part of the track was wet thanks to sprinklers., I will share my opinion of handling, comfort etc. Of course that part will not discuss longevity.
Kumho PS91 - good budget Summer performance tire, Good on dry and rain, slowish response, acceptable precision, comfortable, wouldn't buy this unless I was tight on cash
Firestone Indy 500 - Great for initial traction (launch).... party ends there. OKish handling, slow response, satisfactory precision
Conti Extreme Contact - Best of the 3 big companies. Very good on dry, Good+ on rain. Fast response, precise and quiet.
Pirelli PZero - Good on dry and wet, very predictable. Fast response, noisy
Pirelli PZero PZ4 - Better than the old PZero for precision. Very good on dry and good on rain. Very predictable and consistent once it lets go.
Michelin 4S - Strong initial grip but once they let go, they do not respond consistently (less forgiving). Satisfactory on rain, very precise and immediate response.
Nitto Motivo (AW) - Best all weather tire for the F-Type. Great in rain, geat on dry, good on light snow or low temperatures where summer tires are useless (below 45 degrees). Quiet, comfortable and precise drive.
Falken Azenis FK510 - Outstanding handling on dry and exceptional on wet, fast response but not razor sharp. Strong grip always, very predictable and very consistent
I can share my experience with longevity, based on 4 different tires on my car and usual driving. Usual for me is still rather hard but I do have separate wheelsets for track use.
Pirelli P-Zero 5000mi rear, 6000mi front
Michelin 4500mi rear, 4800 front
Falken FK510 3000mi rear, 3700mi front
Track sets:
Pirelli PZ4 - Drift and fun events (promotional) - 2 track days
Falken FK510 - Club racing, 1 day
Kumho PS91 - good budget Summer performance tire, Good on dry and rain, slowish response, acceptable precision, comfortable, wouldn't buy this unless I was tight on cash
Firestone Indy 500 - Great for initial traction (launch).... party ends there. OKish handling, slow response, satisfactory precision
Conti Extreme Contact - Best of the 3 big companies. Very good on dry, Good+ on rain. Fast response, precise and quiet.
Pirelli PZero - Good on dry and wet, very predictable. Fast response, noisy
Pirelli PZero PZ4 - Better than the old PZero for precision. Very good on dry and good on rain. Very predictable and consistent once it lets go.
Michelin 4S - Strong initial grip but once they let go, they do not respond consistently (less forgiving). Satisfactory on rain, very precise and immediate response.
Nitto Motivo (AW) - Best all weather tire for the F-Type. Great in rain, geat on dry, good on light snow or low temperatures where summer tires are useless (below 45 degrees). Quiet, comfortable and precise drive.
Falken Azenis FK510 - Outstanding handling on dry and exceptional on wet, fast response but not razor sharp. Strong grip always, very predictable and very consistent
I can share my experience with longevity, based on 4 different tires on my car and usual driving. Usual for me is still rather hard but I do have separate wheelsets for track use.
Pirelli P-Zero 5000mi rear, 6000mi front
Michelin 4500mi rear, 4800 front
Falken FK510 3000mi rear, 3700mi front
Track sets:
Pirelli PZ4 - Drift and fun events (promotional) - 2 track days
Falken FK510 - Club racing, 1 day
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They last half as long and the price is not directly related to quality nor longevity but by branding.... I use the Falken FK510 on all the cars I put my hands on and I race them on my F-Type rather successfully. In the rain, they are so much better than the MIchelins... Downside, The PZero last about 5K miles, the Michelin 4500mi, the Falken 3000mi. That is explained by the far superior handling, not a bad compromise for better handling.
A randomly selected recent comparison.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm
Don't know if there are significant differences for different tyre diameters.
My experience, although purely subjective with no measurement to back up has been that I much prefer Pilot Sport 4S over Pirelli P Zero.
Having said that my usage case must be significantly different than Ftypec17 as I got approximately 20,000 miles on first P Zero
First set of PS4S are on 16000 miles, grip does diminish slightly as tyres wear, as with all tyres in my experience but not sufficient to justify replacement at 5000 or under for me.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm
Don't know if there are significant differences for different tyre diameters.
My experience, although purely subjective with no measurement to back up has been that I much prefer Pilot Sport 4S over Pirelli P Zero.
Having said that my usage case must be significantly different than Ftypec17 as I got approximately 20,000 miles on first P Zero
First set of PS4S are on 16000 miles, grip does diminish slightly as tyres wear, as with all tyres in my experience but not sufficient to justify replacement at 5000 or under for me.
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I just drove mine once after having a set put on and then was put away for winter storage. One of the first things I noticed on a long drive yesterday was just that, how quiet they were.
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Life is too short to run cheap tires. I fell for some sales pitches of tire store managers and/or recommendations of shade tree mechanics in the past and tried Kumho's and Dunlops and a few others when I had lower budget cars and they were all so vastly inferior to the Michelin Pilot Sport tires of the day that I vowed never to go back. I can't begin to describe how much better the traction is on my RWD R model having switched from stock P zero's to Michelin PS4S, and the noise improvement was significant - and I went from tires that were only 40% worn....
At the engine speeds I normally run, tire noise is not a significant component of the decibel levels. 
I drove on the OEM PZeros for no more than a couple dozen miles before I swapped for the PSS tires, so not enough time to observe noise level at cruising speeds. However, the new PS4S tires I had mounted a couple months ago seem to be moderately quieter than the PSS tires.
I drove on the OEM PZeros for no more than a couple dozen miles before I swapped for the PSS tires, so not enough time to observe noise level at cruising speeds. However, the new PS4S tires I had mounted a couple months ago seem to be moderately quieter than the PSS tires.
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I can't believe I'm saying this. On a whim because they were available, and I lack patience. I put on Firestone Indy 500s 200 miles ago. They are great! Very quite and corner very very well! And I have quite a few cars with P Zero, Conti, and PS4S tires. I don't know how these are so good, especially for the price.
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From: The Netherlands Central Highlands - Veluwe-
I actually consider to let them sit for a trip to Portugal in october - 8.000kms - [ 5000 miles..] . So then they did 25.000kms ... ..and we do not drive slow or 'straight line only'....
So then my PZ's -rear- lived 300% of yours..
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+1 - I have also had experience with various Michelin, Conti, and Nittos on high-performance cars, but I could not ignore the reviews on the Firehawk Indy 500. I have had them for a couple of months and find them to be very quiet and responsive. I don't track my car; it's just my summer ride so I don't really get to push them to the limits, but I have been very happy with them.