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Stupid front, mustang rear, nice profile. No Jag influence. Joins BMW and Lexus and Toyata in race to stupidist front end. Assume interior is modern. If it has the 400hp V6 from Infinity Red as rumored and priced at $40k will probably sell enough with Japanese reliability.
Stupid front, mustang rear, nice profile. No Jag influence. Joins BMW and Lexus and Toyata in race to stupidist front end. Assume interior is modern. If it has the 400hp V6 from Infinity Red as rumored and priced at $40k will probably sell enough with Japanese reliability.
I disagree, the frontend is very 240 ish and the rear looks nothing like any mustang to me, I really like it and think it will look even better in dark colors.
They definitely get bonus points for the interior and the manual gearbox.
But hey we can all agree that it pales in looks compared to the F type.
Honestly I'm proud of Nissan for making it really evoke the 240Z. The front (esp grill) needs some work but the back is super retro-futuristic, IMO. Also, I see a slimmer version of the F-Type hips on the back of that car, but the F Type is so much more substantial.
I like it but won't be needing one, thanks.
I think whereas the F-Type looks better without the bumper bar (i.e. P7 grille), the Z concept would look better with one.
Very nice combo...the two sitting side-by-side show how beautiful sports cars have evolved over the last few decades. Sort of like comparing today's athletes with those years ago...today's are faster, bulkier, quicker, and beautiful in their own right...but we've lost a little simple elegance along the way.
Very nice combo...the two sitting side-by-side show how beautiful sports cars have evolved over the last few decades. Sort of like comparing today's athletes with those years ago...today's are faster, bulkier, quicker, and beautiful in their own right...but we've lost a little simple elegance along the way.
I like vents, ducts, and big wings as much as the next person (the Ferrari F40 is endlessly fascinating, for example) but I definitely agree that many of today's cars are fussy and overstyled with too many creases, scoops, and (fake) vents. The F-Type and this new Z concept are refreshingly lacking in those for the most part, and I appreciate that compared to things like the new Supra and the C8 Corvette.
I like vents, ducts, and big wings as much as the next person (the Ferrari F40 is endlessly fascinating, for example) but I definitely agree that many of today's cars are fussy and overstyled with too many creases, scoops, and (fake) vents. The F-Type and this new Z concept are refreshingly lacking in those for the most part, and I appreciate that compared to things like the new Supra and the C8 Corvette.
I hadn't thought about it until you pointed it out but that is what I like about both the F-Type and the Z Proto.
I think anyone who loves to drive should be excited about the new Z car... an excellent, well-balance chassis with a 6MT and a twin-turbo V6... in a classic coupe format, front-engine, RWD. There probably won't be many more cars built this way before drive-by-wire means your steering feel is controlled by an algorithm, not by mechanicals. We should celebrate it and appreciate Nissan for delivering it. It might be brave or crazy of them, but at least they are still delivering a new car for the small group of weirdos that enjoy such a visceral human-machine connection.
I'll happily add one to my collection next to my F-Type. But maybe not in that yellow
My first new car was my '71 240. It was yellow but much softer. Back then Datsun was producing a different color each month as they got caught up to demand. I'd never seen a yellow one before and actually had never saw one on the floor. My father was showing off and wrote a check for it so they let me have it! Never even drove one before owning it, leap of faith.
My 3rd car was a brand new 280Z which I still own today, but never drive. I am going to take it in for its third restoration after I pick up my '68 GTO tomorrow!!! I will modify the 280Z a bit by taking out all of the hard plastic pieces from the back hatch area and replacing with quilted leather (more like the original 240Z's quilted vinyl), will probably have the engine worked on to get some more power (or do the Chevy small block V8 upgrade. I haven't decided yet. Either way, my Goat is coming home tomorrow afternoon after several years of restoration. The '68 GTO, complete with the Endura bumper, hidden headlights, and Coke bottle shape kept me awake in 3 years of boring high school. It may handle like a Cadillac limousine, but it was my dream, even moreso than my Pantera. Pictures tomorrow.
My 3rd car was a brand new 280Z which I still own today, but never drive. I am going to take it in for its third restoration after I pick up my '68 GTO tomorrow!!! I will modify the 280Z a bit by taking out all of the hard plastic pieces from the back hatch area and replacing with quilted leather (more like the original 240Z's quilted vinyl), will probably have the engine worked on to get some more power (or do the Chevy small block V8 upgrade. I haven't decided yet. Either way, my Goat is coming home tomorrow afternoon after several years of restoration. The '68 GTO, complete with the Endura bumper, hidden headlights, and Coke bottle shape kept me awake in 3 years of boring high school. It may handle like a Cadillac limousine, but it was my dream, even moreso than my Pantera. Pictures tomorrow.
Great call, I love that quilted vinyl look from the 240. The GTO sounds killer!
My 3rd car was a brand new 280Z which I still own today, but never drive. I am going to take it in for its third restoration after I pick up my '68 GTO tomorrow!!! I will modify the 280Z a bit by taking out all of the hard plastic pieces from the back hatch area and replacing with quilted leather (more like the original 240Z's quilted vinyl), will probably have the engine worked on to get some more power (or do the Chevy small block V8 upgrade. I haven't decided yet. Either way, my Goat is coming home tomorrow afternoon after several years of restoration. The '68 GTO, complete with the Endura bumper, hidden headlights, and Coke bottle shape kept me awake in 3 years of boring high school. It may handle like a Cadillac limousine, but it was my dream, even moreso than my Pantera. Pictures tomorrow.
280Z restomod sounds like fun, a big ol supercharger would wake her up without adding a bunch of weight..
I had a 260Z with Webber’s and beat on it for several years, never let me down.
The GTO came home last night, the old goat's ALIVE. She may handle like a Cadillac limousine and float like an ocean liner, but just look at that hood. Has there ever been a sexier hood than this?
I go to the office once a week and last night upon leaving I pulled up in back of a 240Z. First one that I have seen in the Chicago area in a long, long time. Great car, always a favorite of mine and IMHO they looked much better than the later issues (i.e., 260, 280) because the safety laws required those cars to have those big, goofy bumpers.
What struck me as I sat there looking at it is how small it looked over the hood/bonnet of my F Type and by today's standards.
I used to carpool with a friend that had an early 70's 240Z. It was white with black leather and he added aftermarket plexiglass headlight covers and wire wheels that he said were made by a company named True Spoke. The car looked really sharp but he told me that the True Spokes leaked air and he had to run tubes in all 4 tires. Those early 240Z's were classics.
Last edited by Dwight Frye; Sep 27, 2020 at 08:27 AM.