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So I test drove a 2016 S AWD....

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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 09:51 PM
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Default So I test drove a 2016 S AWD....

Nice car the Italian Red Metalic paint is geourgous in person. As I arrived at the dealership I call my salesperson and she informs me the detailer just backed it into a pole!

Anyhow I drive it anyway. I have now driven a 2017 Premium Convertible and this S Coupe. Unfortunately I have to say I can't do the V6. I am now all in on the R Coupe and probably only a 2015 RWD as the AWD really bogged on the launch as the traction swapped to the front wheels.

Damage passenger side rear corner. I felt bad for the detailer he looked worried.


 
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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 10:50 PM
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hahahah sucks that they crashed it before you could even buy it but a discounted R is the best option when it comes to f types.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Vassh

as the AWD really bogged on the launch as the traction swapped to the front wheels.
This is the result of having awful P-Zero tires and full traction control turned on. What happens is P-Zeros slip like crazy and traction control kicks in. With better tires and Track DSC mode you would not experience this.

Also, you can't simply stomp on the accelerator on a performance car from a stand still. You need to modulate throttle or it would always result in tire spin. V6 or V8, FWD or AWD, good tires or bad tires.
 

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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 12:19 PM
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I am now all in on the R Coupe and probably only a 2015 RWD as the AWD really bogged on the launch as the traction swapped to the front wheels.
I don't think you're going to find many people agreeing with that. The AWD gets a much better launch, which results in much quicker 100 foot times. 0-60 times dropped by about .3-.5 seconds. Across the board, the addition of AWD made it a quicker car.

 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 12:36 PM
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The RWD V8 is neat because it's extinct, but I'd personally prefer AWD with that much power - especially if you tune it. It's pretty easy to over do on the throttle, and there's no launch control. Others will enjoy it, regardless.

Meanwhile, on the V6-S, I find that RWD is all fun. You have plenty of power to play with the rear end and launch control for starts (although I'll confess to rarely using it).

The line between the two is sort of a sports car vs muscle car feel.

 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 12:46 PM
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The numerous advantages of RWD car are not available to the low-skilled drivers.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 04:23 PM
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The numerous advantages of RWD car are not available to the low-skilled drivers.
+1. I don’t believe these skills can be self taught on the street either. Lot’s of hi-po training and track time needed to acquire them. AWD is an equalizer.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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They will have fun matching the paint!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 08:43 PM
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Not knocking the AWD just worried about additional issues with all the sensors and such. Plus I have a Shelby GT350R that I track at HPDE days so more used to RWD handling.

I'll see what comes on the market near me and drive it.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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+1. I don’t believe these skills can be self taught on the street either. Lot’s of hi-po training and track time needed to acquire them. AWD is an equalizer.
Yes I've told this sad story before, but when I had a track day in my XKR a mate smashed me about in his AWD wrx because when I would brake for corners on the tight track the weight would shift to the front, then I was mashing the throttle resulting in wheelspin and dts (whatever) interference which made me push even harder making it worse, whereas in the AWD wrx the weight going to the front only meant more grip for the turn and a faster exit. It was a sad day. And my mate has photos of the leaderboard to remind me. That said, he did end up having to replace his engine in an almost new car a very short time later, he thinks it was worth it.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2021 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Vassh
Not knocking the AWD just worried about additional issues with all the sensors and such. Plus I have a Shelby GT350R that I track at HPDE days so more used to RWD handling.

I'll see what comes on the market near me and drive it.
No doubt that the more parts and technology, the more chance there is for something to go wrong, but keep in mind, even a base model car is going to have a lot of systems and technology in it. That said, you could buy a RWD and have a catastrophic failure in numerous systems that would have nothing to do with the drivetrain. I have owned many RWD vehicles, some heavily modified and currently I own almost all AWD or 4WD vehicles and I wil take the control on all four corners any time I can get it. Helps handling, braking, and acceleration in various areas. One of my cars has a selectable Haldex system where I can shift power to and from the front to rear - going from a rear wheel bias to 50/50 to a front wheel bias for winter etc. and I love it. I use it in "race" mode during the warm months, but I like having the stability of AWD. I have read many people drag the AWD R as a common car and not rare like a MT v6 or the 2015 R - that's fine, but I had my choice and I went AWD R and never looked back. I also like a manual transmission, but the R has enough power and the transmission is smarter than me so I don't mind letting it handle the shifting. Again, personal preference, but I don't drive the R in bad weather, but its nice knowing that I could if I needed to and if the RWD cars are worth twice what a new AWD car is worth (same relative set-up/options) in 10 years, I will happily post how wrong I am.
 
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