Tires for daily driving.

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Oct 9, 2020 | 01:16 PM
  #41  
Tires
I have Michelin 4S and Continental Extreme Contact Sport on a couple of Jaguars. Most reviews rank Michelin #1 and Continental #2. Both are Summer tires. Here in Central California I run them year round. I think MichelIn is slightly better, but both excellent. Continental is about $250 less for a set of 4. For a variety of reasons I would stay with OEM rims.
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Oct 9, 2020 | 02:53 PM
  #42  
Continental Extreme Contact Sport Plus. Drive very well and are reasonable.
I have gone through P Zeros twice. 10K and 12K miles - then gone.
Went to the Michelin Pilot Sports but had sidewall failures.
I recommend the Continentals.
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Oct 12, 2020 | 01:01 AM
  #43  
After the OEM rear Pirelli Zeros wore out and became loud at 20,000, I replaced them with Conti DWS all-season tires. Admittedly, the Contis are softer in ride and handling but, being all-season tires, they've extended my driving season into a full three seasons (I garage the car once salt is on the road). Plus, thus far I've put 34,000 miles on the Contis without any degradation in ride, handling, and noise. I suppose any all-season tire would offer similar benefits and compromises as the DWS but I'm on my 5th set on a variety of vehicles. Needless to say, I'm a fan of the tire. The important thing to consider is that I don't track my vehicles and I really don't see any benefit to greater cornering ability on the street. Tire technology in combination with F-Type handling is plenty for my driving style.
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Oct 12, 2020 | 04:30 PM
  #44  
I really like my Firestones as well!
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Oct 13, 2020 | 07:40 AM
  #45  
I have no need for expensive short lifespan tires on my 01 XKR or anything else in my possession anymore. This is not my only sports vehicle and I need more smiles to the dollar vs miles. I am running FULLWAYS and NEXENs with no regrets. Don't drive any cold weather, but caught up in plenty of wet ones. They work as good as the Pirellis or Briggstones and the car is very happy with them. They stick excellent, and run very quiet which is my main consideration if given the choice. Ran into the same cheap vs expensive situation on my Harleys. Dunlops don't last, so switched to the cheaper Chenshin (1/3 price) and ZERO issues combined with double the tire life is a winner in my book. Don't believe everything you hear. Even took less balance weights which is an indication of quality to me. Unless your car stays on a track with unlimited budgets, tires ain't pretty, don't make you better looking, but ya gotta have em'. So why pay more for a daily driver? Not like they giving you an award for paying more and getting less, haha. Like snapoff vs harbor freight, who really cares as long as it gets the job done.
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Oct 13, 2020 | 08:37 AM
  #46  
Quote: Like snapoff vs harbor freight, who really cares as long as it gets the job done.
I cannot agree with you at all. When I started buying tools, I bought Harbor Freight because of what seemed like much more bang for the buck. It took me years to finally figure out that I was doing more damage than good with those cheap tools. They should stamp a little "ish" on each tool. 10ish mm, 12ish mm, etc. I rounded off more nuts and bolts and actually broke sockets. I finally started buying decent tools and those nuts and bolts that were too rounded for the cheap harbor freight tools would suddenly come off without issue.

Tires connect your vehicle to the road. I want tires that will save my *** if I do something stupid, not give up right when I need them, especially on a bike!
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Oct 13, 2020 | 09:11 AM
  #47  
To each his/her own but I’ve never understood the logic behind saving $’s for something as important as tires. They are what connects you to the road and whatever extra I might be paying—if I am at all—is well worth it. Six years ago I bought my first set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS (before the 06’s came out) with the intention of swapping into summer tires (with an extra set of Propeller wheels I had) and loved them so much I’ve never looked back. And while I am not tracking my car anyone who knows me knows I am not “Captain Slow” when it comes to driving.

And (only) because I was a Continental Tire customer back in 2016–although I’ve had Continental on many of my cars before my F-Type—I reached out to the company who not only sponsored shirts for the first event I hosted—the 2016 Jaguar Lobster Run—but my last (and last) event, the “just-held” 2020 Jaguar F-Type Ghost Tour. That makes 4 “rounds” of shirts for the 6 events I’ve hosted. Shirts or no shirts, I am a loyal and dedicated customer simply because I believe in, and buy, the brand. (Unfortunately I remain an unpaid spokesperson, much as I like the idea).
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Oct 13, 2020 | 07:20 PM
  #48  
Quote: I cannot agree with you at all. When I started buying tools, I bought Harbor Freight because of what seemed like much more bang for the buck. It took me years to finally figure out that I was doing more damage than good with those cheap tools. They should stamp a little "ish" on each tool. 10ish mm, 12ish mm, etc. I rounded off more nuts and bolts and actually broke sockets. I finally started buying decent tools and those nuts and bolts that were too rounded for the cheap harbor freight tools would suddenly come off without issue.

Tires connect your vehicle to the road. I want tires that will save my *** if I do something stupid, not give up right when I need them, especially on a bike!
I have to agree with you on this one. I try to stay with craftsman. Maybe not as good as snap on, but with the lifetime guarantee, they cost less than the cheapos over a lifetime or two. I’ve recently returned a hacksaw under warranty that my dad purchase in the 1940s and a torque wrench that I bought in the 1970s. They even apologized for not having the same models and replaced the hacksaw with an equivalent one and upgraded my torque wrench. Try that with a Pittsburgh Tool.
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Oct 13, 2020 | 07:49 PM
  #49  
I agree with Quality not Price, usually.

Many of my tools were trade-ins of professional brands (Snap On, Matco) obtained from a tool salesman neighbor who took them back, to sell new sets to shops.

But, I have exchanged AT NO CHARGE the HF torque wrench that I use for torquing wheel nuts. It was at least 15 - 20 years old. So I will not 'diss' them. Our present HF torque wrench is 15 years old. (I don't rebuild engines however)

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Uh-Oh, topic drift!
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Oct 14, 2020 | 07:24 AM
  #50  
More Topic hijacking (sorry):



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Oct 14, 2020 | 08:22 AM
  #51  
I knew I was going to get flamed by those who have a long ways to go when it comes to mechanical work. When I started doing mech work professionally in the early 70's, there were some tools named GlobeMaster. I think a lot of people out there are confused and think that's what Harbor Freight sells. On the contrary in defense of HF, it's not that way at all. There's not enough room in here to name all the different tools I have had the pleasure or displeasure of putting my greasy fingers on. One of the worst tools out there is the Snap-On. Can't tell you how many times I have had to chase a Snap Off tool truck down the road to get a broken tool exchanged, and refuse to buy their over priced stuff anymore. Didn't have that problem with MAC, Or Matco. But my sets of snap off are all mixed vintages because they freaking break. Now for those of you that never worked offshore in the oil industry, I probably should explain how rusted up and frozen stuff gets out there in hardly no time, and they seriously frown upon using any open flames. Wrenches and sockets don't fit because the nuts and bolts are eroded outside as well. So you beat and saw your way thru a lot of stuff to get to the issues at hand. Even a crescent wrench will almost become useless if allowed to rust unattended out there. And there's no trucks to chase. It is what it is. So we use what we can get our hands on that works. I'm here to say that none of us have ever broken a HF socket. They are among the best money can buy, and you do not have to worry if you drop one over board because you can replace the whole set for what 1 cost at Snap on. Better yet you don't have to worry about them walking off either. When you're the lead mech on a project and have to school a bunch of trainees that might not even speak English, they break stuff and loose stuff when you not looking. So I more than anyone is surprised to say they never broke the HF tool contrary to what people might blab on about. So you can say I don't care what kind of tools you got because it don't matter. I've used them all, and in 10 different countries at that. It sure don't make you pretty and only small minds care. What matters is if you can fix what needs fixing without having to call your daddy.
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Oct 14, 2020 | 09:23 AM
  #52  
Quote: I knew I was going to get flamed by those who have a long ways to go when it comes to mechanical work. When I started doing mech work professionally in the early 70's, there were some tools named GlobeMaster. I think a lot of people out there are confused and think that's what Harbor Freight sells. On the contrary in defense of HF, it's not that way at all. There's not enough room in here to name all the different tools I have had the pleasure or displeasure of putting my greasy fingers on. One of the worst tools out there is the Snap-On. Can't tell you how many times I have had to chase a Snap Off tool truck down the road to get a broken tool exchanged, and refuse to buy their over priced stuff anymore. Didn't have that problem with MAC, Or Matco. But my sets of snap off are all mixed vintages because they freaking break. Now for those of you that never worked offshore in the oil industry, I probably should explain how rusted up and frozen stuff gets out there in hardly no time, and they seriously frown upon using any open flames. Wrenches and sockets don't fit because the nuts and bolts are eroded outside as well. So you beat and saw your way thru a lot of stuff to get to the issues at hand. Even a crescent wrench will almost become useless if allowed to rust unattended out there. And there's no trucks to chase. It is what it is. So we use what we can get our hands on that works. I'm here to say that none of us have ever broken a HF socket. They are among the best money can buy, and you do not have to worry if you drop one over board because you can replace the whole set for what 1 cost at Snap on. Better yet you don't have to worry about them walking off either. When you're the lead mech on a project and have to school a bunch of trainees that might not even speak English, they break stuff and loose stuff when you not looking. So I more than anyone is surprised to say they never broke the HF tool contrary to what people might blab on about. So you can say I don't care what kind of tools you got because it don't matter. I've used them all, and in 10 different countries at that. It sure don't make you pretty and only small minds care. What matters is if you can fix what needs fixing without having to call your daddy.
Great point - I have worked in the auto service industry and had my own home remodeling business (of course I do some auto and home work for myself also). I have used Matco, Snap on and other big brands - the majority of my tools are craftsman although I have acquired some Husky and HF pieces along the way. I have had excellent luck with both Craftsman and HF and have had to ruin a socket by hammering it on etc. and it is nice knowing I can replace it at a reasonable cost. My tools are like other things in my life - I spend whatever I need to and save wherever I can. I buy high end faucets and fixtures for my home and use quality lithium battery tools, but for basic grinders, polishing wheels and other misc. home items and tools that I know are going to get some abuse, HF works great. Funny enough, all of the HF tools I bought for a potentially "one-time use" have lasted long past that. I have a bench polisher that I bought for something years ago and have used it for countless hours restoring acoustic drums (hobby/side business) and it literally will not die. It has helped me make a lot of money on projects and when it quits, I will promptly visit my local HF and replace it. Again, just like with my cars, I like nice things, but I also don't see the need to spend more than I have to on anything. Weather its buying a less expensive brand of tools or being patient to wait on a good car deal, saving is important because I have found that money is hard to earn and easy to spend. Saving everywhere I can allows me to spend on things that really matter or that I really want.
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Oct 14, 2020 | 10:07 AM
  #53  
Nothing like a good tire thread discussing tools...

I'm not a professional mechanic, but I have worked on my race cars for years. I've never broken a tool, cheap or expensive, unless I meant to break it (i.e. hammering a socket onto a suck nut knowing it was going to tear up the socket). 99% of the time, if you are breaking tools, you are using the wrong tool for the task. It's not necessarily because "it was not a Snap-On". And I do own some Snap-On tools.
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Oct 15, 2020 | 07:54 AM
  #54  
Tires, & tools ain't pretty anytime you got to mess with them. Quit being a tire and tool snob. Now T & A on the other hand is a whole different story. yowsa
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Nov 10, 2020 | 03:59 AM
  #55  
New to me R came with worn but not worn out front PZ's and nearly new rear PZ's. Below 40 degrees they were not good.
In shopping for A/S's to run this winter it came down to one choice. Bought RE980AS's from The Rack. Waiting for the cold weather to come back to pass judgement but so far, they are quieter and just as grippy as the PZ's.
If the new PS AS4's (C8 tires) had been available, I'd have probably gone with those but they haven't started production of the 255's yet.
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Nov 10, 2020 | 04:50 AM
  #56  
Quote: Michelins are magnificent, great choice, had on my 2017 SVR to replace the terrible Pirellis. Have new 2020 SVR can't wait to wear out Pirellis to replace with Michelins. In Chicago gets a little cold in the winter and below 40 the Pirellis turn into useless hockey pucks and the Michelins perform beautifully, last longer and handle better as I drive it like I stole it....
If you could (and haven't already) post some pictures of that 2020 SVR!
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Nov 10, 2020 | 05:35 PM
  #57  
Check with Continental. The extreme contact line has very good all season ones that I believe Rickyjay In Maine uses all year round.
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Nov 10, 2020 | 06:37 PM
  #58  
Quote: Check with Continental. The extreme contact line has very good all season ones that I believe Rickyjay In Maine uses all year round.
Hey buddy. Indeed I do run Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 year round and today was a perfect day to reflect (and I actually did give it some thought at speeds of...well...you know) on the fact that having supreme confidence in your tires (and, it goes without saying, your driving ability) is paramount. It was just a spectacular day to drive into Portland for lunch with a friend and needless to say the drive in around and back was positively brilliant. The thought of compromising one iota in my tires—regardless of the cost—is foolhardy (penny wise, pound—or psi—foolish) in my opinion.
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