I am going through Jag Carlsbad since they are 15 minutes away.

I was able to sit with the lead tech and we listened for a while in my car and then went to a 2016 F-Type R and listened. The setting they had was DTS which doesn't make the issue as much. I kept it in stereo which I use all the time. He was able to hear the issue and the service writer said they would fix it. I provided the TSB number from the "stereo rattles..." thread, but the tech couldn't locate the TSB number and he couldn't find any TSB related to stereo system rattles. I'll see if I can find the TSB PDF that was posted and if all else fails have JLR Customer Care work with them.

 

Any documentation or instructions to swap the trans fluid? cannot find a single source for this

 

I've had a few cars to over a couple hundred thousand miles. Never bothered changing gear lube. But those were all MTs. Let a pro handle the ATs. If any part of it isn't properly primed after the change, you've fried the tranny.

 

Plenty out there on the ZF 6HP26/28 six speed, including a few vids, but nothing for the 8 speed (ZF 8HP70 in the F-Type) that I can find.
But I guess the eight speed fluid change procedure is exactly the same as the six speed procedure, the only real difference being the fluid to use, that fluid is not interchangeable and you must use the correct spec eight speed fluid (the recommended fluid is ZF Lifeguard 8).

 

There has to be a Caitlyn Jenner joke in here somewhere

 

I asked about having the tranny oil changed while doing the break in oil change and the EXACT response was, "None of them are every opened up." I was also quoted $350.00 for the break in oil change - they must plan on replacing the gold filter...............................Have ordered my Blackstone kit.

 

She drives a Porsche

 

As OzXFR says don't seem to be video about ZF 8HP70 transmission in F type.
There are many about changing oil and checking level on this transmission in other vehicles.

Identical procedure


General information on ZF 8HP70


Jaguar technical information on ZF 8HP70

 

So regardless of miles it must be changed before year 6 SinF?

 

According to the attached ZF Guidance, it is 80-120,000 Km or 8 Years...You would always want to adjust based on driving conditions (harder driving - shorter intervals)

DC

 

Well, depends. You should never exceed service interval specified by ZF, but this interval is defined for light use. If you push the car, then you should service it more frequently. Keep in mind, that ZF service interval is for complete fluid change, this means you have to cycle quite a bit of extra fluid through overfull to get anywhere close to getting most of the old fluid out.

I used to drive a BMW from the 'lifetime transmission fill' era. I was foolish enough to buy into advertising. The first transmission suffered catastrophic failure at around 120,000 kms. I replaced it with one from a low mileage wreck, switched to synthetic ATF and put it on drain-and refill schedule of every 2 years. I did not bother with trying to get all fluid out at once, as that was labor intensive, my method resulted in 50% fluid changed every 2 years. The second transmission was still going very strong when I finally retired the car decade later with more than 400,000 km. So with regular fluid changes second transmission, that wasn't a brand new to start with, more than doubled mileage of the original.

Now, my preference was to not have to deal with transmission problems, as I wanted to avoid being stuck on the road. I could have probably done drain and refill every 3 years and still hit this mileage.

There is also a question of 'fluid shock'. As it became known that 'lifetime transmission fill' transmissions prematurely failing, community realized the need to change fluid. A number of people reported sudden transmission failure right after changing the fluid on previously functioning high-mileage transmission. These were more than separate anecdotes - these stories were numerous and credible. It became clear that at some point it is too late to change transmission fluid, doing so would result in sudden failure. As a work-around, gradual refill procedure was developed to minimize "fluid shock". The lesson here is that waiting too long to change transmission fluid and then doing it all at once could be worse than not doing it at all.

So what are your goals for your car? Are you planning to keep it forever? Are you going to get bored of it in 2 years and trade it in to the dealer? Are you going to sell it yourself with documented service history?

I cited 6 years based on a) likelihood that a sports car like F-type is driven hard b) near certainty that such service would not be done on a leased car c) minimizing chances of causing fluid shock.

 

As this thread was bumped, it is important to correct this. Back when this post was made in 2016, Manual Transmission F-types just came out. Service manuals were incomplete and there was a lot of confusion on what fluid (eventually) has to be used for refill.

The correct MT fluid is FFL 3, the same fluid used by Porsche PDK transmissions. Jaguar sell this as part number T2R17199. This is very thin fluid, Blackstone Labs told me "the viscosity is in the 10W range". Do not use regular gear oil, it would ruin your F-type MT.