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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 01:30 PM
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Some of you discussed what appeared to be a setback of my right front wheel when I posted some pictures of my Firesand Coupe R. Anyway, to make a long story short - I bought it in January, didn't like the spec so let my Jaguar dealer do some changes (springs, black pack, new wheels), total cost at about 5000 USD + wheels. During the upgrade they found that the car had been in an unreported accident. As the dealer I bought it from (another dealer, not Jaguar authorized) has declared the car to be accident-free, they are responsible for covering all costs related to restoring the car to an undamaged state or buy it back.

This Monday I had a Jaguar-authorized workshop check the car out to do a full damage assessment. It turned out to be really bad news - there is frame damage that is very costly to repair (initial estimates at about 200 000 SEK/ 24 000 USD).

Situation: The dealer that sold me the car will need to take it back.

Complication: I spent 5000 USD on upgrades. The dealer has no interest in covering this.

Learning: A clean car fax, a full service history at Jaguar dealerships and a written guarantee that the car is in perfect accident-free condition is not enough. Next time I will do a thorough inspection personally.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 02:08 PM
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seems like a letter from your lawyer would help here
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 04:16 PM
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ouch! that should hurt.. am assuming you can get some money back selling off those wheels and springs..
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chenthu
ouch! that should hurt.. am assuming you can get some money back selling off those wheels and springs..
Better yet, remove those parts and install them on your next F-Type. My condolences for your pain. It is likely that Carfax did not report the incident because the car was never repaired after the it was driven over a boulder.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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I am a firm believer in a PPI - just didn't think one would be needed on such a new car
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:10 PM
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Sorry to hear of this situation. You would think there should be some punitive recourse to recover your loses.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Königin
I am a firm believer in a PPI - just didn't think one would be needed on such a new car
PPI???
Producer Price Index, Proton Pump Inhibitor,...?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
PPI???
Producer Price Index, Proton Pump Inhibitor,...?
Pre Purchase Inspection
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 07:01 PM
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OP,

I hope you do not have any difficulty with the original dealership in getting the car taken back. I feel for you.

I agree with unhingd, keep your new parts and get a new f type!
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 12:10 AM
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Sorry to hear it turned out for the worse...

Other than the wheels, I guess its difficult to put it back the way it was without incurring further cost that may not be worth it.

Would you keep it if they fixed it at a JLR approved shop? Is that even an option?
I wonder if a second opinion on the repair would be worth the effort?

Aluminum construction is expensive to fix.
 

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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mshedden
Sorry to hear it turned out for the worse...

Other than the wheels, I guess its difficult to put it back the way it was without incurring further cost that may not be worth it.

Would you keep it if they fixed it at a JLR approved shop? Is that even an option?
I wonder if a second opinion on the repair would be worth the effort?

Aluminum construction is expensive to fix.
+1. Keeping the new wheels is a no-brainer. The labor to remove the springs is the same as the cost of the new springs, so those might as well be abandoned.


If the car will be kept for a while, this would not be a good candidate even if it's fixed properly. Tire wear issues could be persistent, market value/salability is heavily deminshed, and you'll always know the car has been bent.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Oh wow, really sorry to hear that, but it could have been worse. My XKR had surprise front end damage but it turned out to be relatively trivial to fix. Good reminder that we all need to be more careful even when buying from a dealer. Dealer should make it right, did you ping the JLR rep that is on the forum? The natural fix would be to replace it with a like car, move your mods, and make you happy. Distrust in the dealers does the brand damage.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 10:20 AM
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He didn't buy it from a JLR dealer.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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That is extremely unfortunate. I hope you can minimize the pain quickly.

Best of luck.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mshedden
Sorry to hear it turned out for the worse...

Other than the wheels, I guess its difficult to put it back the way it was without incurring further cost that may not be worth it.

Would you keep it if they fixed it at a JLR approved shop? Is that even an option?
I wonder if a second opinion on the repair would be worth the effort?

Aluminum construction is expensive to fix.
Thanks for the sympathy.

I've been looking it up, and it looks like the dealer I bought the car from is responsible for both taking the car back and covering any cost related to changing back all the components I have purchased since acquiring the car to the original ones. This would in my case include all black pack articles, the new wheels and sport pedals. However it doesn't seem like they're prepared to cover anything but the price I bought it for, so we'll see how far I can get.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Better yet, remove those parts and install them on your next F-Type. My condolences for your pain. It is likely that Carfax did not report the incident because the car was never repaired after the it was driven over a boulder.
Good point. I'll do my best to keep all parts (for my next F-Type), especially the wheels. In terms of the black pack it depends on whether I can get the dealer to pay for the change back to the original trim.

The car has however been in an accident - and fixed up in a sloppy and careless manner. There's no question about it. The only question was whether there was superficial or serious damage done, and unfortunately it turned out to be the latter.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 05:54 PM
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It cost you money; you learned a lesson. Bottom line ; the damage didn't get you killed in an accident due to the damage..

So look to it from the bright side. You live to regret the day you bought it AND you can tell about it..
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 04:15 AM
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So sorry
Hope it won’t put you off Jaguar such great cars
All the best and how you get sorted quickly
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 02:49 PM
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Don't try to reclaim the black pack trim pieces. The window surrounds will be bent when removing them. They will never look right when reapplied.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 03:38 PM
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Ill be AMAZED if you can get the dealer to take the car back.
 
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