Hi all,

I’m brand new to Jaguar and have been thinking about picking up a 2021 F-Type, most likely the 4-cylinder (though possibly the 6) in either Carpathien Grey or Portofino Blue with black pack and black wheels. Main reason I’m interested in the 2021 is due to the new design enhancements, and particularly the beautiful new front fascia.

One thing I am curious about is the resale value and quality of parts in the new F-Type. I had seen a Reddit thread or two that didn’t seem to speak too highly to either of these, at least in comparison to Porsche. So I am curious to know.. does the F-Type generally hold its value if I were to look at selling it say 5 or so years down the line? And should I be terribly concerned with parts quality..? I believe the Reddit thread was from early 2019 so perhaps those concerns are no longer relevant.

Also, for what it’s worth, I’d probably be paying in cash since I’m not the biggest fan of monthly payments. Of course, I realize that buying a new car in cash is not the most common way to do things however I’ve never had car payments in the past (always bought used) and I’m just simply used to not having them. As well, there is a very attractive rebate offer going on right now which the dealer has mentioned will likely still be available at the time of my new car delivery. Apparently, the rebate offer (if any) at time of pickup has to be the one for that month, rather than the one that was available at time of order.

Appreciate any thoughts!

 

You'll get a lot of depreciation regardless of colour. Blue's a great colour, but so is the grey, so I'd suggest you go for whichever you prefer. F-Types look great in all the available colours.

 

F-Type does not have the quality and will not have the resale value of a similar spec Porsche

 

I obviously prefer the F Type, ('15, '20, '20), but Porsches hold up better in the resale market. I have not had a problem with build quality on Jags.

 

Hmm, interesting. Could you elaborate on the quality issues that you refer to and are these readily apparent on the 2021? I was of the understanding that the late model F-Type was a rather fair upgrade almost across the board from previous models.

In any event, agreed on the resale value compared to Porsche. I had also considered the Cayman, but just not crazy about the design which I find a bit underwhelming next to the F-Type, particularly that front end (was never a fan of the ‘bug eye’ headlamps hah)

Appreciate the input

 

If a big concern of yours is it's value 5 years from now, why not buy a 3 year old car? I bought my 2015 R Coupe with many, many options on it, paid under 60K with taxes and all. Car was a lease with 12,800 miles, I let someone else take the hit on depreciation and benefited by using my time to shop for the right deal. Porsche has been working on refining the 911 series for well over 50 years, Jag is slowly changing/updating these cars for a lot less. My infotainment system, OMG the map especially, is straight out of Fred Flintstone's car. I don't care, the car is a blast to drive and if you were to buy a 17 or 18 there have been improvements in the electronics, frame, steering (arguable if it's better, no longer hydraulic but electronic assisted) seats, dash, etc. I wanted the unrefined product, like a series 1 E type, before it was changed from the first concept. Food for thought.

 

Buying a brand new F-Type only makes sense if you have a habit of holding onto a car for over a decade. Otherwise, as mentioned, buy a used one.

 

I suppose it depends whether you want the new front end and digital dash. Personally I like the new front end but - having it in the 2020 XE - I dont really think that the digital dash has the same connectivity (in the visceral sense rather than the technological) that you have from the three dimensional effect of the previous, so it wouldnt be my choice for a sports car.

If you are happy with the previous shape and the previous dash I'd agree that a 2 year old example would give you a lot of bang for the buck. I bought my XKR at 2.5 years old for less than half of the original car cost. When I traded it on the F Type a few years later I lost about 20%, and that was getting a pretty good deal on the F Type as well, so they werent just throwing money at the trade to make me feel like I'd had a win.

Quality wise you shouldnt have too much trouble, I've had 6 Jags now and they have been very reliable.

 

Quality: I have owned a lot of Jags (confessing, not boasting): they have all been very reliable and well built, and modern ones, absolutely trouble-free. And today, in fact 15 minutes ago, I finished a long mountain/ highway run with ambient temperatures at 32 degrees, in my 1966, yes, 1966 Jaguar mk 2. Ran like a champion, no issues, no overheating, no problems. The car is 100% as it left the factory except for a Pertronix ignition. The negative stories about Jaguar quality come primarily from those who have never owned one, or those who have bought one that has been poorly maintained.
But be warned: your first Jaguar is almost never your last Jaguar. They are addictive.

 

+1 I loved the f-type but saw the depreciation was steep- I was patient and got a 2016 type r with The color and all the options I wanted - panoramic roof, extended red leather and blade wheels with 13k miles for $54k and that was about 20 months ago. I figured that was the sweet spot for depreciation and bought it cheap enough that felt like I could not lose. Problem with your question is that 100 People will likely give 100 different responses based on experience etc, but there are a ton of factors that shape those responses like where you live, where you buy, service history, driving style, need/want, extra money laying around, timing, the market, and luck. I’ve owned lots of cars and some held value and some didn’t, but I love my f-type and haven’t looked back. The only downside is that I don’t drive a lot and spread my miles over multiple vehicles, and I rarely go into the office but I do enjoy my commute when I do.

 

Yep, that is precisely it. In fact one of the main reasons I didn’t purchase an earlier F-Type was because I really only ‘liked’ those earlier versions, however I quite love the new one, especially with that updated front end.

Of course, I am well aware that buying new is not the optimal way to purchase a vehicle, however have never purchased new before and thinking about making an exception for the F-Type. The $9k cash rebate they are offering also makes it very attractive.

 

Well that makes all the difference. When I got the XKR I saved about 20% on the way in by taking the model immediately before the facelift, but I had really wanted the facelift (more modern front end with LEDs, centre stack was modernised as well) and even though they were identical to drive and I couldnt see the different front end from inside the car, those things kind of ate away at the experience. Had I spent the extra, I would have kept it a lot longer I think and the extra cost would have evened out.

 

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the F-Type, in terms of its design and overall fun factor. That's why I chose it over a Boxster S or a 911 Cabriolet. But the overall build quality (body panel fit and finish, paint work, etc), interior material quality (switchgear, plastics, etc), and reliability are definitely below Porsche. It doesn't mean the F-Type is bad, it's quite good actually, it's just not quite the product a similar Porsche would be. All that being said, I would take the F-Type all day over any P-car below the GTS spec.

2021 is definitely a big improvement in tech, but overall quality is yet to be seen.

 

Cheers, we have the 2020 XE, bought July last year to replace our 2015 build XE. The experience has been stellar so far, the fit and finish are miles ahead of the '15 build. My only beef - and it is possible that this will apply to the F Type as well given the similar look - is that the new design front end hangs a little low at the corners and it is easier to knock it coming out of driveways etc.

Agree generally on Porsche build quality, though I did have a client who was troubled by a squeak that drove him mad inside his.

 

Agree in general on Porsche quality but you are either a Porsche guy or not. Back in '12 I purchased a new SLK55 AMG and shopped it against a Boxster S. To get the equivalent car the Porsche stickered for $11k more and very little dealing. So I'm still not a Porsche guy. Even tho the Jag depreciates I didn't take that in deciding I wanted one. I own a '17 Maserati Ghibli, our second one. If you want to learn about depreciation buy a Maser or it's little brother the Alpha ! But my wife loves it so enough said.

 

I am planning on buying a new F type and one of the reasons that I don't want to buy used, is that I want to order it up with very specific options and color combinations. That would be about impossible with a used vehicle. It will be a second, fun/recreational vehicle for me. Yes, I know that Jags are known for somewhat rapid depreciation but I don't care. At age 65 I am finally at a point where I can afford to spend over $100K on a car and not worry about having to eat dog food & Top Ramen in my retirement.
I did consider a Porsche 911 but they do seem overpriced when optioned the way that I would want one.

 

And there it is.....your circumstances and situation is unique to you. I am a super picky person and bought a number of vehicles new so I could get it "my way" - Interesting enough, I actually found exactly what I wanted used and at a great price - so much so that, I attempted to negotiate further and then backed off because I realized the car was a smoking deal with any color/options and the fact that it was exactly what I wanted made it even better. Also, the car was a low priority and although I love cars, I never make them an emotional purchase. The deal and value is what I'm concerned with - once all that is done and funds change hands, then l focus on my enjoyment. Also, I am many years from retirement in the best scenario, but once I get to that sweet spot - I plan to burn through everything - not living and working so I can die and make others rich!

 

My 16 F-type S was 100 grand 4 years ago, It's lost close to $60k in that time and 31k miles. Porsche will holds its value much much better and the build quality on Porsche is much higher, same with reliability. The F-type 6 is a lot of fun though and the best part is by far the sound and chassis. If you are set on a 4 cyl get a 718 cayman/ boxster. The f-type with a 4cyl is just not my cup of tea. From what I'm reading either get a 911, or a f-type v6, if you aren't gonna get a v6 don't bother with the 2.0 f type and get the Porsche 718.

 

My e-Type has only failed to get me where I was going one time - and had the decency to do it when I was at home headed out to pick up a pizza.

Meanwhile, I agree with the suggestions to get one that's a year or two old and let someone else take the biggest depreciation hit.

 

There are better 4 cylinder turbocharged sports car out there for less money. If you are going to get an F-type, make sure it comes with a supercharger.