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Old May 25, 2021 | 10:32 AM
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I am on the hunt for a Beacham Jag that I unfortunately missed out on. Is the owner of this car a forum member?

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/e...beacham/820648

 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 10:55 AM
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Nice car but this is my reason for saying that a Mk2 or S type should not have XJ40 seats with head rests. It just looks awful with the headrest showing through the rear window when in profile.
Would love to have that V8 under the bonnet as a daily driver but I would keep my 3.4 S Type for the weekends.


 

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Old May 25, 2021 | 12:30 PM
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The rear arches and the door fit are very good.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 12:50 PM
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Frankly, it's no longer a Mark 2 for me, anyway. I think they call these "restomods" in the US. Beecham went way over the top in my opinion.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 03:42 PM
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The finish on the wood is dreadful, it desperately needs to be blocked and polished.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:01 PM
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If you blow it up the finish on the wood is amateur in the extreme.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
If you blow it up the finish on the wood is amateur in the extreme.
It's too bad really, someone went to a lot of veneer work, just to goober that stuff on and not finish it properly.

I didn't have to blow it up to see what's wrong.

I'm sure they spent a huge a amount of time doing the paint, why not put at least amount of the same effort.
 

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Old May 25, 2021 | 07:04 PM
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This car is supposed to be a multiple JCNA winner. How? The exterior paint-work is superb (Dark Blue) as is the new leather work, door cards, roof lining, chrome etc.

Look at the wood.






 

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Old May 25, 2021 | 09:56 PM
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It looks like someone plastered some sort of varnish over top of a tired crazed finish.
Maybe there weren't that many entrants that day and that happened to be the best one ???

I've seen Pebble Beach winners where the slots of the screws weren't all lined up either.
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 08:20 AM
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Glyn it certainly did not win any North American award--anyone can check on the JCNA web. That said the car could compete in the "Special" division which demands that a certain amount of non authentic parts are present. This division is for folks that wish to leave the authentic field and show their creations--think the MK2 of Ian Callum. It would be accepted into "Special Division". Btw I must have missed where they claimed multiple JCNA awards. I can tell you that the folks at the auction houses are aware of the process of making those claims and are very good at doing so--esp at that sort of $$$. My guess is the car has been shown at one of the 60+ local clubs and won in the "Special" class. If it won in Driven or Championship class the judging stewards will be on the case.


 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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I'm not talking about the Beacham car. I'm talking about claims made for this S Type. Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look on the JCNA web. Maybe someone is BS'ing.
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 01:47 PM
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Ok got it--lost the point in the thread looking at the Beecham car. Take a look. Probably won some local shows. That is why they have the scoring system they do for North American Awards.
 
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Old May 27, 2021 | 11:35 AM
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The Beacham car is very nice and partly the inspiration of my Jaguar. I wanted to keep all of the beautiful wood and classic exterior. The Vanden Plas seats in my opinion are way better than the stock seats, which are not comfortable and unsafe; but to each their own. Sure there are purist that want to keep it stock but the reality is there are a lot of people that want to combine the classic style with modern performance. The early Jaguar sedans are very underpowered and the V8 is the ideal boost for these cars. My car with the aluminum block LS1 is perfect as it is smooth, quiet, yet provides modern day power of 0-60 in 4 seconds.

I am not sure where the Jaguar S with the poor wood work came from as the original poster provided the link to the Beacham? and this post is about the Beacham. I am very happy with my version as I like the more stock wood dash and with the LS1 V8 I can drive the car confidently anywhere, any distance, and she is nearing 200,000 miles since completion! How many stock owners even drive their car much? I average 30-45,000 miles a year with the comfort of fully supported electric seats, AC, great sound system, and all the modern amenities. Beacham Jaguars are well done and command big money and worth it for those whom can afford it.


I personally see the Jaguar XKR restomod that Doug completed on this forum an even better car than the Beacham as his details and the way he put the car together I view as a step up to the Beacham.
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by roledzki
I am on the hunt for a Beacham Jag that I unfortunately missed out on. Is the owner of this car a forum member?

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/e...beacham/820648
I saw this one which I like better as green to me looks nicer, you should check it out before it is sold,
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car...ii/1965/691554

I am not sure when that one was built but their new versions have an even more modern interior and other enhancements but that will be big $$ more. I think their current version is very cool as the dash looks clean and even nicer in my opinion, and has 8" touch screen and very nice console that looks more like how you would expect Jaguar to do a restomod. They have three engine options with the V8 now being 5.0 liters either with 380 HP or 550 HP, that is in the same level as my car and I can tell you that will make the Jaguar very quick! Plus the transmission is either a 6 speed or 8 speed! Unique to a MK2, their suspension is similar to my 3.8s as their current version has double wishbone coil overs front and rear. I do not know what their seats are and would like to know as they are both heated and cooled with driver memory settings; if anyone knows, please post the information! Those are cool seats that I would be interested in having in my car. Their current version is a big step above their older models and very impressive! wow!
https://beacham.co.nz/new-beacham-mk2/
 

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Old May 28, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Wood still isn't right...
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 04:41 PM
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Jeff,

I do not know what you mean? Look the the finish, it is as nice or better than anybody's wood I have seen on this forum and it blends the modern cool tech so cleanly. The level of detail and quality is top notch but that is why those cars are big bucks. I zoomed in and that wood has a great finish and I have not seen better on anyone in this forum. Yes it is not stock but it is not supposed to be. I would rather have the Beacham MKII than any concourse stock one any day. They have taken their early versions to a whole new level. They are providing the interior at modern day Rolls Royce level while keeping enough of the Jaguar wood well finished and the classic body but with the horsepower I have with my own take on a restomod. I love my car but their new MKII is at such a high quality build level with all of that performance, I can easily see why they can command their huge price tag. The Beacham MKII is dam impressive! I am satisfied with my car but if money was no concern I would love to own one




 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 04:55 PM
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I also prefer the front & rear ride height on the Coombs to the Beacham. The red car is particularly nose down.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...terest-242354/
 

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Old May 28, 2021 | 04:55 PM
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Here's a screen shot from the Car and Driver link, you can clearly see what looks lie ripples in a pond if there was a gentle breeze.

https://redirect.viglink.com/?format...F1965%2F691554

From what I can see in your photos, the wood looks blocked and polished, but that is a different car.






 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
Here's a screen shot from the Car and Driver link, you can clearly see what looks lie ripples in a pond if there was a gentle breeze.

From what I can see in your photos, the wood looks blocked and polished, but that is a different car.

That is from their website where they have selected a particularly good car. I've seen Beacham cars in New Zealand and they are far from perfect. They are generally nice.

 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
Here's a screen shot from the Car and Driver link, you can clearly see what looks lie ripples in a pond if there was a gentle breeze.

https://redirect.viglink.com/?format...F1965%2F691554

From what I can see in your photos, the wood looks blocked and polished, but that is a different car.


For one thing that is one of Beacham's early versions not the new Beacham Jaguar MKII, but I zoomed in and that picture is not in a high enough resolution to really tell? I do not think it has the flaws you believe. Their current version of the MKII is clearly better than ANY Jaguar I have seen in the forums as they have stepped up their game big time. They have put the modern version of my 3.8s restomod's fully independent rear suspension with coil overs, etc. ABS brakes, and all of the modern F type performance into the classic MKII. Look at the wood of the new Beacham and that wood is better than any I have seen and that car has the speed of my car with crazy attention to detail in the fit and finish.

Also the link I provided is an actual Beacham MKII for sale now and the picture is the interior of that car for sale.

I attached the picture of the old Beacham MKII that is for sale right now but again that is their early version; Beacham has totally changed their current MKII with an entirely new interior along with pretty much every other thing has been redone to an even higher level than that old version I posted in green color. Never the less that old Beacham while not as nice as the new Beacham will sell easily for that price as that is what they are going for used but the new one is a lot more $$ but it is one heck of lot more upgraded everything.

 

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