1961 Mk2 3.8 Restoration
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I find this whole oil issue a minefield, interesting reading here
The End Of ?Backwards Compatibility? ? LN Engineering Support
Zinc Additives...Which Brands.... Or are they Needed?
Frequently Asked Questions about Motor Oils ? LN Engineering Support and click on "How did you determine the recommended 0.12% Zn and P level (ZDP, a.k.a. ZDDP)?"
Clyde may hopefully help, there is so much counter information, even the ZDDP additives seem to be an issue as some contain detergents that counteract the Zinc/Phosphorous anti wear properties. Clyde, what do we all need to look for in the specs for our oil, some quote ppm other % .
The End Of ?Backwards Compatibility? ? LN Engineering Support
Zinc Additives...Which Brands.... Or are they Needed?
Frequently Asked Questions about Motor Oils ? LN Engineering Support and click on "How did you determine the recommended 0.12% Zn and P level (ZDP, a.k.a. ZDDP)?"
Clyde may hopefully help, there is so much counter information, even the ZDDP additives seem to be an issue as some contain detergents that counteract the Zinc/Phosphorous anti wear properties. Clyde, what do we all need to look for in the specs for our oil, some quote ppm other % .
Last edited by TilleyJon; 05-11-2017 at 12:03 PM.
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I should have posted a pic of the back. There are several standards referred to on the back. I made the assumption that, since Lucas has been British car parts for longer than my car has been alive that they would never do anything to hurt it, right? Many of the parts that I have replaced have "Lucas" imprinted on them.
I think Clyde's thought of "run what ya got" will have to win in the end. If the additives in the fluids that I use eat all the gunk that's holding the car together I have to live with that. And replace/rebuild as necessary. I knew that was a possibility when I "signed on".
Every day I repeat the Jaguar Owner's mantra... "Gosh but she sure is pretty "
I think Clyde's thought of "run what ya got" will have to win in the end. If the additives in the fluids that I use eat all the gunk that's holding the car together I have to live with that. And replace/rebuild as necessary. I knew that was a possibility when I "signed on".
Every day I repeat the Jaguar Owner's mantra... "Gosh but she sure is pretty "
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Lucas went out of business a while back, and there are several manufacturers using the name even cheap Chinese imports, there was a post on here about several "different" but the same switch all with the Lucas name on it, I think for a gearbox switch, and all of SNG's stock was defective ! So the name Lucas doesn't mean a whole bunch any longer I'm afraid.
Probably on the money with that my friend.
I think Clyde's thought of "run what ya got" will have to win in the end. If the additives in the fluids that I use eat all the gunk that's holding the car together I have to live with that. And replace/rebuild as necessary. I knew that was a possibility when I "signed on".
Every day I repeat the Jaguar Owner's mantra... "Gosh but she sure is pretty "
Every day I repeat the Jaguar Owner's mantra... "Gosh but she sure is pretty "
Last edited by TilleyJon; 05-11-2017 at 01:16 PM.
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Lucas went out of business a while back, and there are several manufacturers using the name even cheap Chinese imports, there was a post on here about several "different" but the same switch all with the Lucas name on it, I think for a gearbox switch, and all of SNG's stock was defective ! So the name Lucas doesn't mean a whole bunch any longer I'm afraid.
Probably on the money with that my friend.
Probably on the money with that my friend.
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Thank you for your comments gentlemen.
I know I've been away from the forum a lot but, when I can't make progress on my deck project, I'm going to work on the car. I took her in to my mechanic to see if we can't resolve the low oil readings when the engine warms up. I should have an answer by the end of the week.
I know I've been away from the forum a lot but, when I can't make progress on my deck project, I'm going to work on the car. I took her in to my mechanic to see if we can't resolve the low oil readings when the engine warms up. I should have an answer by the end of the week.
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So I'm going to try and get partially caught up. I had a physical connection made to get the oil pressure to read accurately.
My Wife and I took the car on longer and longer trips(local car shows, commutes, even a car show about 25 miles away). All seemed fine until we took her on a 200-mile road trip. On the trip back we noticed oil pressure dropping. I may have pinned down the cause, and I think I'll get a professional opinion soon.
Getting bids on the cosmetic fixes that the car will need - one gentleman threw out 100K for the restore.
I am sure that the cosmetics are going to cost more than the mechanicals did. How does this mesh up with the experience of those of you who have had "the pros" do the work?
Body metal/prep/paint - $7.5-10K
Interior leather $6-7K
Wood - $5K-ish
I'll want a radio (my Wife wants a CD-player too)and a transmission that I can drive 70mph without pushing too much past 3000rpm.
Am I dreaming? Or is this fairly realistic? If the restore is going to take forever or if it's going to be 100K I think I better sell the car now.
My Wife and I took the car on longer and longer trips(local car shows, commutes, even a car show about 25 miles away). All seemed fine until we took her on a 200-mile road trip. On the trip back we noticed oil pressure dropping. I may have pinned down the cause, and I think I'll get a professional opinion soon.
Getting bids on the cosmetic fixes that the car will need - one gentleman threw out 100K for the restore.
I am sure that the cosmetics are going to cost more than the mechanicals did. How does this mesh up with the experience of those of you who have had "the pros" do the work?
Body metal/prep/paint - $7.5-10K
Interior leather $6-7K
Wood - $5K-ish
I'll want a radio (my Wife wants a CD-player too)and a transmission that I can drive 70mph without pushing too much past 3000rpm.
Am I dreaming? Or is this fairly realistic? If the restore is going to take forever or if it's going to be 100K I think I better sell the car now.
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$100k says I don’t want to work on your car. But it is what high end restorations on e types and such can go for, but folks don’t complain because they have the potential to get a return on their “investment”.
But no worries Gene- your car doesn’t need a complete re-do. You can do the wood yourself, not sure what the interior needs, but it doesn’t seem like you need to pull it out and start from scratch.
Paint and body then is the real challenge. You are probably about right on the price there.
Remember, you don’t have to do everything at once.
But no worries Gene- your car doesn’t need a complete re-do. You can do the wood yourself, not sure what the interior needs, but it doesn’t seem like you need to pull it out and start from scratch.
Paint and body then is the real challenge. You are probably about right on the price there.
Remember, you don’t have to do everything at once.
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So I'm going to try and get partially caught up. I had a physical connection made to get the oil pressure to read accurately.
My Wife and I took the car on longer and longer trips(local car shows, commutes, even a car show about 25 miles away). All seemed fine until we took her on a 200-mile road trip. On the trip back we noticed oil pressure dropping. I may have pinned down the cause, and I think I'll get a professional opinion soon.
Getting bids on the cosmetic fixes that the car will need - one gentleman threw out 100K for the restore.
I am sure that the cosmetics are going to cost more than the mechanicals did. How does this mesh up with the experience of those of you who have had "the pros" do the work?
Body metal/prep/paint - $7.5-10K
Interior leather $6-7K
Wood - $5K-ish
I'll want a radio (my Wife wants a CD-player too)and a transmission that I can drive 70mph without pushing too much past 3000rpm.
Am I dreaming? Or is this fairly realistic? If the restore is going to take forever or if it's going to be 100K I think I better sell the car now.
My Wife and I took the car on longer and longer trips(local car shows, commutes, even a car show about 25 miles away). All seemed fine until we took her on a 200-mile road trip. On the trip back we noticed oil pressure dropping. I may have pinned down the cause, and I think I'll get a professional opinion soon.
Getting bids on the cosmetic fixes that the car will need - one gentleman threw out 100K for the restore.
I am sure that the cosmetics are going to cost more than the mechanicals did. How does this mesh up with the experience of those of you who have had "the pros" do the work?
Body metal/prep/paint - $7.5-10K
Interior leather $6-7K
Wood - $5K-ish
I'll want a radio (my Wife wants a CD-player too)and a transmission that I can drive 70mph without pushing too much past 3000rpm.
Am I dreaming? Or is this fairly realistic? If the restore is going to take forever or if it's going to be 100K I think I better sell the car now.
Interior I replaced the entire interior with a Vaden Plas and reskinned it all including door panels, sectioned the rear seat to fit, new head liner, carpets including trunk, visors, council, for $5500. I did the wood with a friend whom used to do it professionally but I did check at Madera in CA and they would charge $5K if they had to re-veneer the entire dash so that is the higher end assuming the dash needs a lot of new veneer, repairs, etc. but wood done by a pro looks way better than most of the DIY I have seen in the forums as it is a dying art that few know how to do anymore....
I do not think it will cost you a $100K as the only thing left would be a new engine/trans and suspension if any of those need to be done. A more high performance pro built 6 cylinder will run $10-$15K, trans should not be that much maybe $3-$4K and suspension is relatively cheap unless you go more extreme like me and do custom coil overs, etc. then you may spend $4-6K
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And the cost of the beautiful Beacham Mk 2 is well, well over $100,000.
For the record, the restoration of my 1966 Mk 2 (which had just 16,000 miles on it at the time) did cost close to the mentioned figure.
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Thank you gentlemen. I always appreciate your feedback. Each of you have inspired me with how you tackle your individual challenges.
FWIW, I had spoken with this gentleman at a party months ago. He runs a garage and, as Chuck mentioned, they restore E-types. I believe the 100K estimate would take a car to Concours quality. That is not what I want. I want a car that I will drive A LOT. Not a Daily-Driver but a Daily-Sunny-Day-Driver
Even in her present state I have put more than 500 miles on her so that should prove my intentions.
If I have to do some of the work myself then I will(heck I already have done some!) but I'm very uncomfortable with bodywork, exterior paint, and interiors.
FWIW, I had spoken with this gentleman at a party months ago. He runs a garage and, as Chuck mentioned, they restore E-types. I believe the 100K estimate would take a car to Concours quality. That is not what I want. I want a car that I will drive A LOT. Not a Daily-Driver but a Daily-Sunny-Day-Driver
Even in her present state I have put more than 500 miles on her so that should prove my intentions.
If I have to do some of the work myself then I will(heck I already have done some!) but I'm very uncomfortable with bodywork, exterior paint, and interiors.
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