Whoa!!! 1933 Standard? I missed that . . .

Cheers,

Ken

 

A 33 Standard "Little Nine" is a small Saloon made by the Standard Motor Company. It is still undergoing restoration like so many of my other projects. And yes, I plan to take photos of my exhaust hanger modification and post it on the Forum, probably next week. If two of us have had this problem, we are either not mechanically inclined or the Bell systems were both built on a Friday. There may be others out there with the same problem.

 

I had never seen one. Is this it?

What I am after is a 1952 LHD MG-YB Saloon

 

I had the same issue and resolved it by fabricating straps from aluminum bar stock that go between the exhaust mounts and the attachment points on the mufflers and pipes. They drop the system by about an inch.

 

Sounds like Bell really does have a problem if three of us have encountered the same issue. I plan to make straps as well. Contacting Bell has been futile. Also, I don't want to remove the system that took hours to install.

 

Ted did you buy it from SNG Barrat? Make them pay!! haha!

 

SNG Barratt is only the supplier of a poor quality product for which Bell is totally responsible. I'm not sure whether Bell checks every unit to ensure that it meets the required specs., but it seems like they really missed the boat on at least three systems. I suspect there are more out there and everyone who has purchased the system needs to be aware that they may have issues. At least we have found a solution to the problem even though it is not the best way to resolve the issue.

 

Can you guys post a picture of the offending area on these systems and the fix too please.

 

Here's a picture of the rear-most exhaust mount extension strap. I thought I had used aluminum, but clearly its steel.



Hope this is helpful.

 

Jon, in addition to the photo Dean posted, I have included two photos showing where the tail pipe exits the body at the rear. As you can see, the tail pipes touch the body and are not level. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the tail pipes relative to the fuel tank, but the clearance there is less than 1/4". I haven't made the extensions yet, but I plan to do the same thing Dean has done. This lowers the entire system. My belief is that the two pipes exiting the mufflers were installed at the wrong angle, creating the problems some of us are having.

 

I just sent an email to two of the sales persons at SNG Barratt and suggested that they review this thread on the Jaguar Forum. I don't think the folks at SNG Barratt would have any way of knowing about the problem unless we let them know. It may be too late for any resolution for some of us, but for future buyers of this Bell product, maybe some action will be taken.

 

Interesting, if you look at SNG for the fixings kit BSSFK015 they supply the mounts you guys have used and also the round doughnut rubbers for the ring mounting bracket C25017 I wonder if the ring brackets would suspend the exhaust in a lower position which would be a problem with the fixing kit rather than the exhaust itself ?

Could you post a dimension for the mounts you have i.e. from the 2 bolt holes (lower in the pic) to the single bolt hole (fixed to your adapter bracket), I could compare that to the ring type mount to see what the difference is, as I think from memory that the ring bracket bolt to bolt dimension is greater than that I can see in your picture for the new mount.

 

One last post to this thread. I have included photos of the brackets I made, two of the mounting positions and the final result at the rear of the body. The gap between the tail pipe and body is now about 1/2" and about the same to the fuel tank.

 

The photos didn't make it, so one more try. On the muffler mounting tabs, the brackets I installed are 1" center to center for the bolts.

 

Jon, You might be correct about the mounting kits. However, I would think it should be either/or for the two mounting kits available. My original system used the same mounting parts that I used to install the Bell system. There was no mention about having to use the rubber donut style with the Bell system or using the original style if you don't replace the system.

 

I totally agree, just interested to find out if the error lies with Bell or SNG as I am looking at getting a Bell system myself, I am wondering if Bell make 2 different systems, or if SNG are supplying the wrong mounts, I have the ring type mounts so want to see if they will work with the Bell system.

I only live about an hour away from Bell Systems, so I may go and pay them a visit when I am armed with all the info.

 

I just looked at the SNG catalog and the same mounting kit (EFK015) is listed for all years of MK2 with the twin system. When I viewed the photo of what is included in the kit, it appears to have four rubber donuts and the four original style mounts. I just hope the two sales persons from SNG that I contacted have an opportunity to review this thread and get the issue resolved before others have to endure the frustration that some of us had to endure while trying to install the Bell system.

 

I don't think so, SNG Barrat is quite a reputable company from the UK, and I think you should instead contact the UK headquarters about this, and continue documenting with pictures and explanations. Clearly there is a problem and SNG needs to contact Bell Exhausts about, and I believe you are entitled to a Fix.
Martin Robey does it, why wouldn't SNG and Bell ?

I have to repeat that at least with my S type exhaust, which I purchased from SNG USA, there are or were no issues, zero, nada, The system is on the car since 2005. Beautiful polished stainless parts. I used Stainlesss Band Clamps because I did not want to crimp the joins, "U" clamps tend to damage the connections and then you cannot separate the parts later if you need to.

So I am surprised if not shocked, that MK-2 exhaust systems by Bell have an issue like this, and considering the MK-2 exhaust is less complicated than the S type's, all the more.

 

Contactling thier UK office is a good idea. As nice as the US folks typically are, they basically told me the parts were correct (I had asked if maybe I had received the wrong mounts) and they couldn't help me.

 

That is what I got from them too. That basically the problem was I didn't know what I was doing. True- but I still don't think the parts fit right!