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As Holden belong to SNG, they may give SNG's standard 10% discount and bring the price down to very expensive. And there might be someone who sells them without the 'Lucas' box ...
Priced a new radiator lately? I paid 500 Pounds for my uprated unit a few years back & cringed. Need to go direct to Northhampton Radiators that make them for Barratts.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 8, 2023 at 09:35 AM.
i bought an aluminum rad off of ebay about a year ago that was advertised as being suitable for a MK2.we'll see if THAT's true or not. however, it was inexpensive enough for me to question its suitability.
in any event, the facility that's still in the process of rebuilding my engine has been tasked with installing it as it is one of three or four ancillary tasks i've burdened them with once the engine has been reinstalled. and that job is about to be completed in the next few weeks. so, i'll probably be getting some feedback one way or another soon enough.
Yes ~ I hate those non original look alloy radiators (made in China). I wanted the original look but double the cooling capacity. My engine is kept up to temperature by the thermostat in our hot conditions. Northhampton Radiators makes an exact replica of the original but far better core & all Brass.
Work still in progress at this time & many corrections made after this. Even the clutch fluid reservoir lid is now correct.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 8, 2023 at 12:55 PM.
Getting back to the starter motor and to add to the confusion, Martin Robey, in contrast to SNG Barratt, lists a different part number for the upgraded, high torque starter for the 2.4. And several suppliers list the 'slim line' upgrade at about the same price as the non-slimline (wideline?).
Glyn - your engine bay! I don't imagine the S type at its first motor show could have looked as good. Is one of the spark plug leads the wrong side of the tube from the engine breather?
LOL. The rubber breather elbow hose was not connected at the time. I was waiting for NOS correct Jaguar clamps still in their Jaguar Bag from the US. None of mine passed the smell test.
They are this style of clamp.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 8, 2023 at 04:02 PM.
Alan Wiedie even sourced me a washer pump connector FOC that my first restorer lost/stole from my harness. It was there (he forgets that I photographed the car extensively prior to stripping back to bare body shell). He got fired by yours truly. I'm eternally indebted to Alan for his kindness & provision of correct decals he had made for the fan motor & the rubber collar that attaches the convoluted inlet tube to the air cleaner housing.
It is now as new & fitted.
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Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 8, 2023 at 05:46 PM.
That is indeed the same block as mine and you can see that it doesn't fit because like the 3.4, with the 2.4 there is no space above where the extra sticking out part of the new starter would fit.
I think I am going to fix the old starter. I think when the spring is replaced that the gear will pull back.
Is this theory right or is the spring not responsible for putting back the starter gear so that it doesn't stick inside the gear on the motor?
When cleaning the spring I noticed that a part of the spring was broken off, hiding under some cap.
If I replace this spring then the problem would be fixed right?
I knew the 2.4 block was shorter than the 3.4/3.8 but did not realise how significantly shorter it was.
As for the spring I gave mine to a friend to repair a couple of times before I went to the new high torque starter so I have no idea how it actually works. I still have the old one in the garage which I would willing let you have but it is for the Auto gear box so will not fit your car. Different design.
Last edited by Cass3958; Nov 12, 2023 at 04:27 AM.
rob_mi: You have gone through the hassle of removing the original starter, so why not have a specialist shop go over the unit and make sure it is in proper good condition prior to re-installing it in the car?
Looking at the lucas information for the different starters the manual transmission starter is significantly different to the automatic one.
If the motor spins well then the first thing to do is check that the bendix is not all gummed up, I usually clean them with petrol to start with and finish off with thinners so as not to leave any oil residue that might attract dust/grit.
The teeth on the OP's starter look well past their prime, i'm not sure how you get the end off that type but you need to be careful as the spring probably has some considerable pressure in it. On minis which were similar we had a special tool to compress the big spring so we could take the end off. If the OP does want to try cleaning it and can't get the pinon off then I would at least make sure that any burrs were removed from the teeth in case its causing it to catch and stick in.
For future information the pinion on the automatic starter can be dismantled without any special tools.
i've just reread the first post and the implication is that the problem was that the bendix simply wasn't disengaging properly. that's usually not too hard to fix once the starter has been removed.
looks like the bendix pulls INTO the housing when activated rather than being thrown outward like that on those that i'm familiar with. in any event, IME, they are all returned to their resting places via spring pressure. if the problem IS related to the bendix not disengaging properly, then, ya, it's probably the broken spring. should be easy enough to fix i would think.
If you are considering putting the original starter back in, I urge you to take it to a workshop as S Type owner suggested.
Apart from the broken spring repair they could also replace the bearings, skim the commutator, fit new brushes etc.
Then you should have a good reliable starter for much less than the proposed expensive replacement.
If you are considering putting the original starter back in, I urge you to take it to a workshop as S Type owner suggested.
Apart from the broken spring repair they could also replace the bearings, skim the commutator, fit new brushes etc.
Then you should have a good reliable starter for much less than the proposed expensive replacement.
Bill ~ That's what I did for concours reasons. Did a proper rebuild on the original starter motor & it cranks just fine and starts at first push of the button as my electrical system is up to snuff & AED needle correctly set for our ambient conditions. Of course the 2.4 has a manual choke with the Solexes up until the 240 with SUs & the straight port head.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 13, 2023 at 02:28 AM.
I have been to more hassle then I imagined it would be and I am not sure what problems that the original starter will bring with the high pressure spring.
Although I think that the small spring causes the gear to get stuck into the engine and the starter motor doesn't have the power to turn the engine on.
Can I somehow replace the old spring without taking the starter apart?
Thats very kind of you Cass that you are willing to let me have it but that one isn't going to fit unfortunately.
Your right Homer that the gears look a bit messed up but I don't think that it needs to be replaced yet. When it's time to replace these I can better take the gearbox off and replace the starter gear inside the engine as well.
To be honest I am not ready to take that extra mile since I kind have no room for the car to stay that long
rob_mi
Just get the starter motor into proper workshop for overhaul.
Bite the bullet and spend the money as I suspect you may not have the expertise to repair it.
My apologies if this sounds offensive but there are times when our enthuasim is just not enough to make an effective repair.
Cheers
