Lost Keys/Barn Find MKII 3.8
Lost Keys/Barn Find MKII 3.8
Hi,
I’ve just purchased a 1962 MKII barn find that has all of its paperwork, but no keys. I’ve ordered a new lock barrels and keys set, but I was wondering if there was a simpler way to get the keys remade. I see the three digit code on the ignition. However, local Jaguar specialists have told me that the easiest way forward is to purchase the replacement set.
Is this true? If not, does anyone have any USA-based specialists who could assist with my troubleshooting issue?
I’ve just purchased a 1962 MKII barn find that has all of its paperwork, but no keys. I’ve ordered a new lock barrels and keys set, but I was wondering if there was a simpler way to get the keys remade. I see the three digit code on the ignition. However, local Jaguar specialists have told me that the easiest way forward is to purchase the replacement set.
Is this true? If not, does anyone have any USA-based specialists who could assist with my troubleshooting issue?
This is a company I have used several times in the UK. They are superb turning the keys out the next day and I would assume they can send to the US.
https://www.replacementkeys.co.uk/un...RoCA98QAvD_BwE
There might be a US equivalent company.
A replacement set of barrel and keys will cost a fortune. If you have the FS key code this company will reproduce the keys for you for a couple of dollars each. Each barrel whether it be the glovebox, ignition, boot lock or door lock will be stamped with the code some on the outside others you have to dig a bit deeper and remove the barrel from the lock to find it but they are all stamped with the FS code.
https://www.replacementkeys.co.uk/un...RoCA98QAvD_BwE
There might be a US equivalent company.
A replacement set of barrel and keys will cost a fortune. If you have the FS key code this company will reproduce the keys for you for a couple of dollars each. Each barrel whether it be the glovebox, ignition, boot lock or door lock will be stamped with the code some on the outside others you have to dig a bit deeper and remove the barrel from the lock to find it but they are all stamped with the FS code.
This is a company I have used several times in the UK. They are superb turning the keys out the next day and I would assume they can send to the US.
https://www.replacementkeys.co.uk/un...RoCA98QAvD_BwE
There might be a US equivalent company.
A replacement set of barrel and keys will cost a fortune. If you have the FS key code this company will reproduce the keys for you for a couple of dollars each. Each barrel whether it be the glovebox, ignition, boot lock or door lock will be stamped with the code some on the outside others you have to dig a bit deeper and remove the barrel from the lock to find it but they are all stamped with the FS code.
https://www.replacementkeys.co.uk/un...RoCA98QAvD_BwE
There might be a US equivalent company.
A replacement set of barrel and keys will cost a fortune. If you have the FS key code this company will reproduce the keys for you for a couple of dollars each. Each barrel whether it be the glovebox, ignition, boot lock or door lock will be stamped with the code some on the outside others you have to dig a bit deeper and remove the barrel from the lock to find it but they are all stamped with the FS code.
I recently wrote a piece on the FS locks and keys for the S Type forum which is repeated below.
First of all the S type/ Mk2 Jaguar was issued from new with two keys. The first fitted the driver’s door lock and the ignition. This is generally a broad headed key to differentiate it from the second key which had a small head and was for the lock on the boot and the glove box.
Each key is an FS key and has a specific FS number stamped on to the key which corresponds with a number stamped into the lock somewhere. If you have lost a key you can have a new one cut to the correct FS number but only if you know where to find the FS number on your keyless lock barrel. The FS numbers are stamped in to the barrel of the lock mechanism but to get to the number you have to remove the barrel.
First the driver’s door. Possibly the hardest to get to as in involves removing the door card and dismantling the door handle from the door. There are two studs on the handles with small 3/8 nuts. Remove the nuts and the door handle comes off the outside of the door with the push button. Remove the barrel from the button and you will find the number stamped on the side. No photos of the door handles. Sorry.
The ignition barrel key as stated should be the same as the door key but over the years these could have been changed for a number of reasons. To remove the barrel from the ignition switch it is easier to remove the whole switch from the dash. Unscrew the chrome retaining collar on the front. Disconnect the wiring on the back and the ignition switch comes out of the hole. One the side of the ignition switch there is a small hole and by putting a small screwdriver or punch into the hole and pushing down on a sprung loaded clip the barrel will pop out of the front of the switch. Again the FS number is stamped on the side of the barrel. Should you ever need to change the ignition switch you can always use this method to change the barrels over retaining the original ignition key which matches your door lock.
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The boot lock should be the same as the glove box and as the glove box is the easiest I will do that one first. If the glove box is open swing the door down and look at the back of the chrome lock. On the side that is now facing into the glove box you will find the FS number stamped into the chrome.
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As this is facing into the glove box it is difficult to see so you can either remove the door from its hinge or the lock from the door. The latter is how you would check for the number if the glove box door was locked so is the easiest way to see the number. If the door is locked remove the chrome retaining collar on the outside of the glove box door lock and the lock will push in through the hole and the glove box door will open up. There is nothing else holding the lock mechanism in the hole but it is a tight fit to a tap with a small hammer whilst pulling the handle will knock the lock out of its hole. Really simple. With this FS number you should be able to get a key cut for the boot but if the locks have changed and you have two different keys from the glove box and boot then we move on to the hardest.
The boot lock is the hardest and if it is locked there is no way to remove the mechanism to get to the FS Number so you have to hope the Glove box number is the same. If the boot is open then you have to remove the mechanism from inside the boot. Remove the chrome plinth. The lock mechanism is held in with three bolts and is connected to the levers with a circlip. The mechanism has the lock barrel with the handle to open the lock underneath it. If you look down the side of the barrel at the bottom there is a hole either side with a retaining pin running through. I found if you go from left to right it is easiest due to the splines on the pin being on the right. Take a small punch and tap it in to the left hand side to push the pin out of the right. Once the pin is out the FS number can be found stamped into the side of the barrel again.
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If the boot is locked and the FS Key from the glove box does not fit the only options would be to break the lock by hammering a screw driver into the key slot and turning the lock to open the boot. You do not have access to the pins location when the Plinth is in place. The second option is to drill the lock out but either method will destroy the lock and it will have to be replaced using the method above. I would assume that as there are a limited number of FS Numbers if you were to contact somewhere like SNG or David Manners they might be able to supply you with a lock number to match either your glove box or your ignition/door lock FS number.
First of all the S type/ Mk2 Jaguar was issued from new with two keys. The first fitted the driver’s door lock and the ignition. This is generally a broad headed key to differentiate it from the second key which had a small head and was for the lock on the boot and the glove box.
Each key is an FS key and has a specific FS number stamped on to the key which corresponds with a number stamped into the lock somewhere. If you have lost a key you can have a new one cut to the correct FS number but only if you know where to find the FS number on your keyless lock barrel. The FS numbers are stamped in to the barrel of the lock mechanism but to get to the number you have to remove the barrel.
First the driver’s door. Possibly the hardest to get to as in involves removing the door card and dismantling the door handle from the door. There are two studs on the handles with small 3/8 nuts. Remove the nuts and the door handle comes off the outside of the door with the push button. Remove the barrel from the button and you will find the number stamped on the side. No photos of the door handles. Sorry.
The ignition barrel key as stated should be the same as the door key but over the years these could have been changed for a number of reasons. To remove the barrel from the ignition switch it is easier to remove the whole switch from the dash. Unscrew the chrome retaining collar on the front. Disconnect the wiring on the back and the ignition switch comes out of the hole. One the side of the ignition switch there is a small hole and by putting a small screwdriver or punch into the hole and pushing down on a sprung loaded clip the barrel will pop out of the front of the switch. Again the FS number is stamped on the side of the barrel. Should you ever need to change the ignition switch you can always use this method to change the barrels over retaining the original ignition key which matches your door lock.
The boot lock should be the same as the glove box and as the glove box is the easiest I will do that one first. If the glove box is open swing the door down and look at the back of the chrome lock. On the side that is now facing into the glove box you will find the FS number stamped into the chrome.
As this is facing into the glove box it is difficult to see so you can either remove the door from its hinge or the lock from the door. The latter is how you would check for the number if the glove box door was locked so is the easiest way to see the number. If the door is locked remove the chrome retaining collar on the outside of the glove box door lock and the lock will push in through the hole and the glove box door will open up. There is nothing else holding the lock mechanism in the hole but it is a tight fit to a tap with a small hammer whilst pulling the handle will knock the lock out of its hole. Really simple. With this FS number you should be able to get a key cut for the boot but if the locks have changed and you have two different keys from the glove box and boot then we move on to the hardest.
The boot lock is the hardest and if it is locked there is no way to remove the mechanism to get to the FS Number so you have to hope the Glove box number is the same. If the boot is open then you have to remove the mechanism from inside the boot. Remove the chrome plinth. The lock mechanism is held in with three bolts and is connected to the levers with a circlip. The mechanism has the lock barrel with the handle to open the lock underneath it. If you look down the side of the barrel at the bottom there is a hole either side with a retaining pin running through. I found if you go from left to right it is easiest due to the splines on the pin being on the right. Take a small punch and tap it in to the left hand side to push the pin out of the right. Once the pin is out the FS number can be found stamped into the side of the barrel again.
If the boot is locked and the FS Key from the glove box does not fit the only options would be to break the lock by hammering a screw driver into the key slot and turning the lock to open the boot. You do not have access to the pins location when the Plinth is in place. The second option is to drill the lock out but either method will destroy the lock and it will have to be replaced using the method above. I would assume that as there are a limited number of FS Numbers if you were to contact somewhere like SNG or David Manners they might be able to supply you with a lock number to match either your glove box or your ignition/door lock FS number.
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