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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 07:12 PM
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Can I ask a favor?

Can you send me photos of your engine bays?

I have a 3.8 that I just took over and its missing a few bits, and I have no idea what i am supposed to see when i lift the bonnet...

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Battery Box Missing?
Battery Box Missing?


What is this?
What is this?

Where does the brake master cylinder go? what about the clutch cylinder?
Where does the brake master cylinder go? what about the clutch cylinder?

, and any tips appreciated.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 10:41 AM
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Where to begin? The Lockheed canister is the power brake servo that is vacuum operated. You're missing the generator and possibly the power steering pump that attaches to the back of the generator if you have power steering which means you're also missing the reservoir for that. Unfortunately you have a massive hole in the wall where the battery goes. It was possibly cut to put in an aftermarket air conditioner. I have a 66 3.8 S Type. You have a MKII. Very similar engine compartments though. Air filter box is completely different




 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 11:08 AM
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Where to begin? The Lockheed canister is the power brake servo that is vacuum operated. You're missing the generator and possibly the power steering pump that attaches to the back of the generator if you have power steering which means you're also missing the reservoir for that. Unfortunately you have a massive hole in the wall where the battery goes. It was possibly cut to put in an aftermarket air conditioner. I have a 66 3.8 S Type. You have a MKII. Very similar engine compartments though. Air filter box is completely different
Thank you very much, good news is there is no hole where the battery sits - thats a felt pad glued to the firewall/bulkhead.

I have so many parts in 6 different boxes including 2 sets of SU HD6 carbs - this one is, is suspect the one for this car


which negates the need for the airbox (but i do have the original parts)

Missing one of the two exhaust manifolds, I have a alternator (generator?). hoses, more gaskets than i can count (10 exhaust gaskets - all brand new)... missing Radiator, and many many other parts..

What i do know is this car was originally exported to Zurich, then imported to USA in '71 and still has KM/H Clock.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 11:57 AM
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I have the original radiator for my car that I might be willing to part with. However since you're in Arizona you may consider a larger core radiator like the one in my car. They are quite expansive though. I believe both our cars use the same radiator.
 
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I have the original radiator for my car that I might be willing to part with. However since you're in Arizona you may consider a larger core radiator like the one in my car. They are quite expansive though. I believe both our cars use the same radiator.
how much for yours and moss sell the expansion version?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 10:57 PM
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i bought a new aluminum radiator off of ebay for a very reasonable price, had a professional install it....said it was not too much trouble to fit it. i then drove it from idaho to california last summer without issue. ('67 340)
 
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The battery area is OK for a Mk2. They originally had a battery tray but a piece of 3/8 or 1/2 plywood will do the job.
Those HD 6 carbies or Ok but PLEASE fit new diaphragms before putting them on the engine. Well known fire starter as the old brittle diaphragm splits and fuel goes onto the distributor.
Check carfully for the starter carbie bits in your spares. that mounts over the large hole you can see between the HD6s. New bits for this starter carbie cost a fortune.
An aluminium radiator will work OK. Just do your homework and make sure that it will fit. I am running one in my MK1. Check with Huey about his source.
Finally, if you haven't done it get hold of a MK2 workshop manual.!!!!!!
Just be a little wary as there are subtle differences between early MK2s vs later cars e.g. 340 and S types
 
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
i bought a new aluminum radiator off of ebay for a very reasonable price, had a professional install it....said it was not too much trouble to fit it. i then drove it from idaho to california last summer without issue. ('67 340)
Dont suppose you still have the link to the radiator?

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Old Jan 5, 2025 | 10:11 AM
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The battery area is OK for a Mk2. They originally had a battery tray but a piece of 3/8 or 1/2 plywood will do the job.
Those HD 6 carbies or Ok but PLEASE fit new diaphragms before putting them on the engine. Well known fire starter as the old brittle diaphragm splits and fuel goes onto the distributor.
Check carfully for the starter carbie bits in your spares. that mounts over the large hole you can see between the HD6s. New bits for this starter carbie cost a fortune.
An aluminium radiator will work OK. Just do your homework and make sure that it will fit. I am running one in my MK1. Check with Huey about his source.
Finally, if you haven't done it get hold of a MK2 workshop manual.!!!!!!
Just be a little wary as there are subtle differences between early MK2s vs later cars e.g. 340 and S types
Thank you, I do intend to get a service kit, I am terrified of SU Carbs, I did rebuild a Weber DGV on my spitfire, but Weber parts kits seem so much cheaper than the SU parts, If I can raise enough cash selling bits, I was tempted to go for 3 X DCOE's

I have these books and papers, is one of these sufficient?
(If anyone wants the Maintenance Chart (the large sheet of paper in german or english), LMK and I can take to Staples and have them Scan it and send out a PDF.






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Old Jan 5, 2025 | 10:40 AM
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I think that Service Manual ( and this Forum) are your best friends !
Good Luck ! You have a lot more courage than me ...
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Dont suppose you still have the link to the radiator?

TIA
ha! you're in luck! like is mentioned it looks like i DID buy it on ebay, and fortunately for you, they never throw away any info that might bring them so much as a dime in the future, so they still had the info on my purchase. and it looks like they are still available too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284737466550

as i noted, i didn't install it, my mech did and the installation was just a minor part of a major engine and trans overhaul, i did ask him about the radiator install and he said he had to do a little fitting. i didn't ask for any more details, but i sensed that it wasn't all that difficult, but then again he's a pro. it appears to be up to the task...no leaks.

of course, it doesn't look OEM, but that's not all that important to me. if it were i'd first remove that double snouted manhole cover of an air cleaner that effectively blocks any access to the carbs!
 

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Old Jan 5, 2025 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
ha! you're in luck! like is mentioned it looks like i DID buy it on ebay, and fortunately for you, they never throw away any info that might bring them so much as a dime in the future, so they still had the info on my purchase. and it looks like they are still available too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284737466550

as i noted, i didn't install it, my mech did and the installation was just a minor part of a major engine and trans overhaul, i did ask him about the radiator install and he said he had to do a little fitting. i didn't ask for any more details, but i sensed that it wasn't all that difficult, but then again he's a pro. it appears to be up to the task...no leaks.

of course, it doesn't look OEM, but that's not all that important to me. if it were i'd first remove that double snouted manhole cover of an air cleaner that effectively blocks any access to the carbs!
Thanks Very Much!

Have begun cataloging what I have, lots of XJ, MG MGA, MGB and MGC as well as some Morris Minor 1000 and 1100 parts... and i am only 2 boxes in

What scares me is cylinder heads - was looking before christmas - saw some around the $300-450 range, now they are $3000 and up.

Hope some Budget ones come back
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 09:18 AM
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These are the parts i have cataloged so far, I've gone through 2 boxes of about 8...

Most are NOS.

If anyone needs any of this, we can trade or do a deal.

Ill post an updated list when i have gone through more boxes.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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This engine and trans are in Portland. Might be worth the trip

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/...810899894.html
 
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Originally Posted by Felixbobcat
This engine and trans are in Portland. Might be worth the trip

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/...810899894.html
Thanks, never thought to look on CL. If i had a $1000 id go get the engine for definate, unfortunately, this jags future is tied to a lotto win or my ability to sell the surplus spares.

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That engine looks like it has been through an overhaul. Note the shiny pistons, missing cylinder head studs and clean timing chains.
I believe it would be worthwhile to do some serious detective work and find out where the overhaul work was done.
That may assist you in the mystery of the missing cylinder head and its current whereabouts.
 
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it took me a considerable amount of time and effort to even FIND a new-to-m3 block (3.4l) when i recently found that mine was cracked and unuseable. don't be too picky.
 
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
it took me a considerable amount of time and effort to even FIND a new-to-m3 block (3.4l) when i recently found that mine was cracked and unuseable. don't be too picky.
im not, i reached out to the Craigslist chap, we’re hopefully doing a trade, I find out today.
 
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac
That engine looks like it has been through an overhaul. Note the shiny pistons, missing cylinder head studs and clean timing chains.
I believe it would be worthwhile to do some serious detective work and find out where the overhaul work was done.
That may assist you in the mystery of the missing cylinder head and its current whereabouts.
PO’s grandfather was a jag dealership and had installed bigger pistons and decked the block for more power. The block and gearbox look like they just came out of the showroom.

unfortunately the grandfather passed away and the family split the content of his garage, the PO thought he got everything for the Mk II but alas did not. I have a literal ton of XJ parts, MG parts and a small box of Mk II parts (so far)

still got 3 or 4 boxes to go.

 
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If you need a cylinder head, later XJ heads fit. They have an extension at the rear that overhangs the older blocks. It's not a problem, but exposed water passages have to be plugged. Also, you will need an inlet manifold from a straight port head (XJ or 420). In fact, the series 3 XJ heads are probably the most desirable.
 
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