No 420?
I see every other major model listed, but no 420 'S' compact. Because they are the most unwanted Jaguar? Hell, even the Daimler is mentioned, so maybe not!
Been said it's the most refined pre-Leyland sedan. Just curious, not furious. Kind of prefer it that way, actually. Keeps pricing down, plus I favor the obscure stuff.
Been said it's the most refined pre-Leyland sedan. Just curious, not furious. Kind of prefer it that way, actually. Keeps pricing down, plus I favor the obscure stuff.
It took me a few seconds to understand that you are referring to the title of the subforum. Yes, 420 is missing and production of the Daimler version of the 420, the Sovereign, ran to the end of 1968, which doesn't fit the 1955-67. The 420 is often overlooked: even the SNG website is confused about it. It suffers because, though in most ways it was the best of the family, it had a short production and was totally outshone by its immediate successor, the XJ6.
Yes ~ The 420 is a darn nice car & people like Thorsen have to ask "Do I belong here" We must get Admin to fix the title. Even the Sovereign should be included, though it was really a UK car only. The Daimler they are talking about is really the Mk2 based V8.
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British Motor Holdings dropped the Daimler from their US range about the same time as the introduction of the Sovereign so it never had a chance to reach there. I doubt they sold many SP250 Darts and don't think they ever offered the 2½ litre V8 saloon.
420s did make it to Australia in both Jag and Daimler guise.
There was a bit of confusion in the second-hand motor dealers.
Around 1980 I remember seeing a 420 in North Queensland being advertised as an early XJ6 based on its manufactured date.
I also encountered this at a motor wrecker (parting out?) in the 1990s while I was chasing XJ6 parts.
Sadly, a lot of the S type and 420s were wrecked for their rear ends which were highly desirable for hot rods making them now relatively scarce.
There was a bit of confusion in the second-hand motor dealers.
Around 1980 I remember seeing a 420 in North Queensland being advertised as an early XJ6 based on its manufactured date.
I also encountered this at a motor wrecker (parting out?) in the 1990s while I was chasing XJ6 parts.
Sadly, a lot of the S type and 420s were wrecked for their rear ends which were highly desirable for hot rods making them now relatively scarce.
Or@Bill Mac maybe CKD happened in Aus?
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British Motor Holdings and British Leyland weren't very good at consolidating their brands. What they achieved was largely by inaction and close to useless in terms of cost saving. In the case of Daimler, BMH dropped it from the range they offered in the US in the 1960s. Later, BL failed to re-register the name. A respectful decade or two later, Daimler-Benz (or D-Chrysler or ..) registered it. BL took similar (in)action with Austin-Healey and Mini-Cooper. It saved them a few pounds per car, but probably lost them far more in sales. They tried to drop Daimler from other markets. It resulted in a few creative minds selling 'Daimler kits'. As for South Africa, I've no knowledge. However. I'd expect the story would be more like the US.
@Peter3442 "BMH" --- That's the same as BMC, British Motor Corp.?
Where the 420s South Africa got CKDs? (Complete Knock Downs - to be assembled)
Or@Bill Mac maybe CKD happened in Aus?
Or@Bill Mac maybe CKD happened in Aus?
By the XJ6 all bodies were pressed here by Steelmobile.
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