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Old 09-26-2020, 02:32 PM
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correct, I don't know what the heck I was thinking. It SHOULD Start in P and N, but not in any other shifter position like D, 1, or 2.
 
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Jose
thanks but is this just an adjustment/fix or do these switches die and I first have to replace before testing?
 
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:48 PM
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I would try rotating the switch to try and make the reverse lights come on before declaring the switch dead.

not to say they never fail but they rarely fail.

I believe this switch might be used in other Borg Warner transmissions like the BW65 and BW66 all the way to 1987 in the XJ-6.

SNG Barrat should have replacements.

I have a complete center console shifter assembly from A 1977 XJ-6 and it looks to have a somewhat similar switch. So surely you can find a new one if needed.


 
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:56 PM
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On Monday’s to do!

Thanks
 
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Before asking all your neighbours over to help out, raise the car on a ramp or jack with an axle stand for safety then get under the car with a multimeter. Check with the ignition key in the on position that you have power going to the green wire terminal.. If you have then put the car in reverse and see if you have power coming out on the Green Brown wire terminal. If you have power coming out it is not the switch but possibly a break in the green brown going to the back of the car. If there is no power going in on the green wire then you have a problem on the live side. The multimeter is your best friend before you start trying to pull the switch out or having a Jaguar S type appreciation society meeting to check if the rear lights come on. The multimeter will also have a continuity tester which is another superb tool you can use for chasing dead wires.
 
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If you require a new one they are available from SNG Barratt. Suitable for BW35 fitted to models.

Daimler 2.5 V8 / V8 250

Mk II / Mk 2 2.4 & 240

Mk II / Mk 2 3.4, 3.8 & 340

S-Type 3.4, 3.8



 

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Old 09-26-2020, 06:34 PM
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if it was me, I would call the entire Jaguar Club for an emergency lemonade and sandwiches meeting like we used to do in Nashville Tennessee, and let THEM fix it while I watch !

 
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Old 09-27-2020, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jose
if it was me, I would call the entire Jaguar Club for an emergency lemonade and sandwiches meeting like we used to do in Nashville Tennessee, and let THEM fix it while I watch !
This is becoming like the old joke. "How many people does it take to change a inhibitor switch?" Answers please!

In the UK with the Covid restrictions we would not be allowed to do that. 6 People only meeting up any one time and not in a house or garden. No mention of your garage so you might just get away with having 6 in your garage.lol.
 
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Cass, provided you are an organised gathering (have performed a prior risk assessment) & someone brings a football, in England you're classified as an organised sport & allowed more than 6 people. I'd happily host in Somerset. It's currently for sale on UK Ebay (4.2 Mk2, Coombs Replica), but if someone brought along a welder & we had a welding party ..... 🤣🤣🤣.
 
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:28 AM
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those were the days before a pandemic. We used to have Tech Meets. Bring your Jag problems, the experts will fix them while-you-watch. No charge for repairs. The meets became so popular they had to suspend them.
 
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Ok geniuses... it’s Sunday and I got the car up!
see below pictures. On the drivers side there are no wires. Again I assume this is still a BW35

second picture has something up at the top that looks like a silver disk. Could this be it!

is the switch In the column!

I'm baffled...obviously
 
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Old 09-27-2020, 10:45 AM
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Urika
found it on the column under the panel...!
looks like wires have power. So think it is the switch
...and only needed two days and one person to find it!!!!
thanks guys!
 
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Old 09-27-2020, 11:18 AM
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I bet it is not the switch but the adjustment of the switch.

NOTE: Do not disconnect the wires from it!

the instructions to adjust it are in the Service Manual.

if you don't have the Service Manual, download it from my website:

www.classicstypeparts.webstarts.com

I have both the MK-2 and S type Service Manuals in .pdf format.

the adjustment steps are in the Electrical Section.

the adjustments are Left-to-Right first,

AND not documented is a FRONT-to-REAR secondary adjustment which is the one that turns ON the reverse lights. In other words, the switch pivots West-East, and then NORTH-SOUTH. You'll have to figure it out.

 
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If it is under the dash panel I can only assume you have a DG250 Auto Box in your car as the BW35 inhibitor/reversing lights switch is definitely on the side of the box. Although strange things did happen when building Jaguars during the BMC and Leyland years with all the strikes that were going on. Parts were at a premium and some cars were made up of the parts lying around.
A new switch should get you up and running again and they are not expensive. In fact less expensive than holding a beer/car fixing party in your garage.
 
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:25 PM
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not if you announce the party as a BYOB party.
 
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
not if you announce the party as a BYOB party.
They bring their own Beer and fix your car for you. I want more friends like you have Jose.
 
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Old 09-27-2020, 01:16 PM
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move to Nashville Cass. There is a great group of Jaguar, Aston Martin, Lotus, MG you name it group of owners there. Small big town.

EDIT: I have since changed the side marker lenses back to the original clear ones with Amber bulbs.

 

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Originally Posted by Cass3958
If it is under the dash panel I can only assume you have a DG250 Auto Box in your car as the BW35 inhibitor/reversing lights switch is definitely on the side of the box. Although strange things did happen when building Jaguars during the BMC and Leyland years with all the strikes that were going on. Parts were at a premium and some cars were made up of the parts lying around.
A new switch should get you up and running again and they are not expensive. In fact less expensive than holding a beer/car fixing party in your garage.
Hmm ~ another thing the scribes of books might have wrong. The "Detroit Gears" 250 was not supposed to be fitted to 340's. Must be one of those crossover cars like 1963/64 built S Types. As you say probably worse in the BMC/BL days.
 

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What the Fourth Edition Service Manual says. The 340 superseded the Mk2 ~ guess I can understand the possible confusion.


 

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