Can someone confirm the procedure for installing the later style sealed ball joints for me before I break something? I've been attacking what I think is an insert for the old style lower ball joint with a hammer and drift pin but nothing is budging. I'm assuming this is pressed in from the center of the upright toward the bottom. If this is correct does anyone remember if there's a shoulder on the upright forging (i.e., the insert doesn't go all the way to the edge of the bore)? Appreciate any guidance.

 

I'll chime in only because nobody else has. I have no experience working on the older models.

Are you sure the sealed type ball joint is intended to work in this application?

On the newer models I've replaced several sets of 'old style' lower ball joint with the sealed 'new style'.

On the later cars the seat the needs to be removed is item #14 in this picture:

Wishbone and Balljoint-Lower - Parts For Series III Saloon | Jaguar Heritage Parts UK

What I see in your picture just isn't looking familiar to me. I recall a more cup-like appearance which I don't see in your picture.

Hopefully others will chime in

Cheers
DD

 

Thanks Doug - that's the same setup used on the Mark 2, which confirms the ball socket I'm trying to drive out is separate from the upright. If I'd thought a moment I would have realized the lower plate that retains the ball is forcing it up into the upright, so obviously the socket needs to be tapped down for removal. Glad I didn't resort to the 5 pound hammer. Here are a few pics for the next knucklehead that tackles this upgrade.

 

Glad you found the right direction for tapping out this bearing ring. Yes, this is a kosher upgrade, cutting out lots of bugg**ing about with shims and then rapid wear with modern tyres and cornering forces, and the inability for the grease path to actually get the grease where it is needed !!.

Much cheaper too !! BTW these sealed joints can be used by all saloons back to the Mark 1 except the Mark VII/VIII/IX which use different parts.

 

Pictures says a thousand words.
The order catalog says, "remove the ball pin spigot from the stub axle carrier".
Now I know what a "ball pin spigot" in the "stub axle carrier" looks like.
Thanks!

 

These sealed joints are an absolute Godsend to Jaguar saloon owners. They last a very, very, long time, provided you haven't bought JoNoname repros. I believe it was Lemforder that were the OEM supplier.