Well its safe to say im obsessed. I have been consumed with the idea of trading in my gas efficient car for a Jag for the better half of the year. Mind you ,I came out of a hummer to "gas efficiency". Gas wasn't cheap but the cost didn't out-weight my appreciation for that truck. I have had handfuls of vehicles in my past, but nothing that I would consider as luxurious as the XF. My sister seems to think that at my age a Jaguar is a bit "extravagant". I have been living in Atlanta for the past two and half years. I have been able to gain experience with so many cars that I would not normally encounter in my home state. I have been crazily researching all things Jaguar from 2010 to the new V6 supercharge for 13. I figured the best way to find out what vehicle suites me best would be to get knowledge from people who have the answers from experience. Lets be honest , cars are never the best investment for the pocket book so I like to be knowledgable on bigger ticket purchases. I look forward to meeting you and learning . Jay

 

Welcome to the forum Jay,

Follow this link to the XF section XF and XFR ( X250 ) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum and this one to the XJ section https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xj-x351-53/ for help and advice on the current saloon models.

You could even consider a two door? If so, follow this link to the XK section XK / XKR - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum for further tempting ways to attack the pocket book!

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Enjoy the search and the forum.

Graham

 

Welcome to this friendly Forum, Jay.
Lots of good advice from Graham and lots of reading to do!

 

Welcome to the forum Jay,

Good to have you with us.
I vote for an XK to offset the sheer mass of the Hummer.
Enjoy the forum.

If you haven't done so already you should add your car details to your signature to help others to help you.

 

While I agree it is necessary to be prudent regarding any large expenditure of money, I have to respectfully disagree with the phrase, "never the best investment".

I bought a car new for $8000 + tax +fees. It consistently got 41 mpg. I drove it for 10 years. It was comfortable, reliable, and to this day, looks new. I regularly serviced it with oil changes every 3000 miles. (stay with me here) The only other maintenance it required was transmission fluid changes, air filters, spark plugs, and 1 battery. At 97,000 miles I replaced the CV joints. Its now at 100,000 and because it still gets about 41 mpg, and looks and drives so well, I could probably sell it for $2500 or more, though the blue book is under $2000.

So lets say I just toss it. I received 10 years service from the car. It got me from A to B conveniently, economically, and never left me stranded.

Lets do the math, shall we?

Purchase price $8000
Tax and fees $1040
Insurance for 10 years (10 x $210 x 2) $4200
Gas (100000/41 x approx $2.50/gal) $6098
Oil changes (100000/3000 x $13) $433
Transmisson oil (100000/20000 x $25) $125
Air filter (100000/20000 x $10) $50
Spark Plugs (100000/20000 x $8) $40
Battery $80
CV Joints $200

Total $20266
Or $2027 a year or $5.55 a day.
Or 20.27 cents a mile.

Now, lets compare to public transportation. A taxi is the closest thing to a personal car, lets say its a dollar entry fee and 20 cents for a quarter mile. We'll also ignore the time and the tip. 100000 / (10 x 365) = 27.4 miles a day. We'll be nice and say that you took only 1 trip a day. 27.4 x 20 cents x 4 = $8.64 a day in mileage. Plus the entry fee is $9.64 a day. Or 35.18 cents a mile.

Or how about mass transit? That would be two bus trips and two subway trips per day. There are no transfers. Bus 2 x .70, subway 2 x 2.10 so 1.40 + 4.20 = 5.60 per day The buss and the subway do not follow the most direct route, but lets be nice and say they do. 5.60 / 27.4 = 20.43 cents per mile.

Something not discussed here is though the bus and subway do not have to be concerned with traffic problems, the time for commute was 2.5 hours each way. For the car or taxi, 0.75 hours.

Advantages of the car over the taxi is that it was available at a moment's notice, I could haul whatever I wanted, I could drive however I liked, and as far as I desired.

So if your belief of a best investment is one that yields positive returns independent of external needs, then almost no cars are best investments. (An exception being a Mercedes Gull-wing.)

But for me and considering my alternatives, this car was the best investment.

The values of oil, gas, bus fares, etc were considered averages over 10 years.

 

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I have it down to the XF and the XJ I need a four door but the user interface and ascetics between year and model seem to have large variables. Prices range are all over the between the two also.

 

I have been looking at just the XF Premium but after the issues I keep reading about on the user interface with the touch screen. The XJ is an amazing looking car, a little extra than I need with the back fold outs and such but does anyone have any input on the changes made year to year with the touch screen integration ? Also did the London Tan come in XF thats not supercharged?

 

I've checked the brochures and London Tan Softgrain is unique to the XFR.



With all Jaguar models, the new buyer can specify from a wide range of paint colour and trim options. Finding exactly the spec you want in a used vehicle may take some perseverance and travel.

Graham

 

Welcome and Good Luck to You Lady Jay,
I wish you well and hope you travel far...
For me the Dream May Be AN XKR!
Alas, whatever you choose, Jags will never lose!
Once Bitten, the Bite will always Last!
The Cat is Classy, Comfortable and Cute!
I think your taste should follow suit, from bonnet Leaper to the boot...
Chase your Dream and don't be shy....
The Cat is the Cream, I can't say why....
But The Jaguar is the only car
For Me You see, T'is but the DREAM!