New S type owner in the midlands.
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Sure can. Search for DCCV as we have several hundred threads on it. Very common but not too bad to fix. Don't delay as the DCCV can burn up the climate control module if not fixed.
Completely foolish statement! It is MANDATORY to change the transmission fluid. Only the factory can claim it's lifetime filled.
As was posted above we have found it's best to service the transmission (which includes a new pan) somewhere around the 70K mark. You mentioned the "Lurch". Have you been to the website and read how to identify the different versions of the lurch? Well worth the read even though the guy went off the deep end BUT he did buy the car new and paid full price! Not like us cheap skates that purchased them used at a great price!
Jaguar S-Type Ownership Experience - The ZF LURCH Fault
Do you know the pan is integrated with the filter? Read about the fluids as we do have some non factory fluids that have been working fine. I use Lifeguard 6 but only because it has come down to around $19/Liter. Still expensive but you probably will only change the fluid once during your ownership. Takes about 6-7 liters when you swap the pan and filter assembly. Do you know about the sealing sleeve problem? This is also likely leaking and should be replaced when you have dropped the pan/filter. Good thing is it's only about $15 just don't forget or you will be dropping the pan again!
Couple of things I don't see you mention? The transmission cooler lines will weep at the connection between the steel tubing and the rubber hose. This can lead to low fluid level and all kinds of strange actions. So be 100% sure you have the correct fluid level before doing anything. Get under the car and inspect these now. They are probably weeping already.
Search for different solutions as it can fixed very cheaply DIY or massively expensive at the dealer if you replace the entire hose assembly. Be aware the cooling lines can't be removed/replaced in one piece with the engine/transmission if place. The factory assembled it that way.
Again do you know how to check the fluid level? It's not easy but a home guy can do it if you are motivated. Just remember that it must be checked properly! No short cuts. The car must be level and in the air and you must measure the transmission fluid temperature while the car is running. You will slightly over fill and then let the excess run out before putting the fill plug back in.
So I would recommend getting the free manuals we have here on the forum. They are called the JTIS and the JEPC. These are really key to understanding and fixing your car. As you know the only way a used Jaguar will work out is if you can DIY most of the repairs/service.
I don't see where you have changed the lug nuts yet? These will be bad. Don't delay as people have been stuck along the road with a rim they can't remove. Then you will need to cut the lug nut off with possible rim damage.
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Completely foolish statement! It is MANDATORY to change the transmission fluid. Only the factory can claim it's lifetime filled.
As was posted above we have found it's best to service the transmission (which includes a new pan) somewhere around the 70K mark. You mentioned the "Lurch". Have you been to the website and read how to identify the different versions of the lurch? Well worth the read even though the guy went off the deep end BUT he did buy the car new and paid full price! Not like us cheap skates that purchased them used at a great price!
Jaguar S-Type Ownership Experience - The ZF LURCH Fault
Do you know the pan is integrated with the filter? Read about the fluids as we do have some non factory fluids that have been working fine. I use Lifeguard 6 but only because it has come down to around $19/Liter. Still expensive but you probably will only change the fluid once during your ownership. Takes about 6-7 liters when you swap the pan and filter assembly. Do you know about the sealing sleeve problem? This is also likely leaking and should be replaced when you have dropped the pan/filter. Good thing is it's only about $15 just don't forget or you will be dropping the pan again!
Couple of things I don't see you mention? The transmission cooler lines will weep at the connection between the steel tubing and the rubber hose. This can lead to low fluid level and all kinds of strange actions. So be 100% sure you have the correct fluid level before doing anything. Get under the car and inspect these now. They are probably weeping already.
Search for different solutions as it can fixed very cheaply DIY or massively expensive at the dealer if you replace the entire hose assembly. Be aware the cooling lines can't be removed/replaced in one piece with the engine/transmission if place. The factory assembled it that way.
Again do you know how to check the fluid level? It's not easy but a home guy can do it if you are motivated. Just remember that it must be checked properly! No short cuts. The car must be level and in the air and you must measure the transmission fluid temperature while the car is running. You will slightly over fill and then let the excess run out before putting the fill plug back in.
So I would recommend getting the free manuals we have here on the forum. They are called the JTIS and the JEPC. These are really key to understanding and fixing your car. As you know the only way a used Jaguar will work out is if you can DIY most of the repairs/service.
I don't see where you have changed the lug nuts yet? These will be bad. Don't delay as people have been stuck along the road with a rim they can't remove. Then you will need to cut the lug nut off with possible rim damage.
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Thats all very useful information thanks a lot.
US Lug nuts = UK wheel nuts.
The translations take some time to learn. Same with my online bike buddies in the US.
So thank you, yes the lug nuts will be changed asap.
I think $60 (?) per litre of the OE ATF is a bit rich. I would prefer to go for something cheaper, but if the torque converter is full of the OE ATF its going to be hard to match.
I am seeing my uncle in Birmingham UK on tuesday so I will ask him about the ATF situation. He has had Jags for decades and he's currently got the latest HF. I have a strong feeling he will know where to get it done at the right price
But I will research that some more and as you say the pan has to come off then so be it. I have no facilities to raise the car and work underneath so thats a workshop job but not a main dealer. Also my drive is sloping in both directions so its just nowhere near level.
I can put the car on metal ramps at the front drive and have a looksee underneath at the oil lines. Good point, I had a hole develop in the ATF line from the back of the autobox to the oil cooler on the Ford. Major headache replacing the line.
I've been looking at and downloading some of the relevent and excellent information from the "library" on here. Brilliant !
Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain.
Sadly they don't do replacement spines.
Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget and also I hate paying other people to do work because they rarely do it better than I can. My old man was the same if he could do it himself and save money he would.
Bikes arent difficult with everthing easily accessible, but cars not so much.
As I say we do very few miles in a year but we still need reliability.
Preventative work is the smart way.
My shopping list is getting longer
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Sorry, didn't intend to offend. I'll make sure not to waste my time offering help or advice in the future. Good luck.
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I am not offended at all, I've got fairly thick skin, but I just wanted to set the record straight being a newb.
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Routinely breaking the law. Great. People want to be blinded by people like you because?
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Go in your local Halfords and see xenon bulbs for sale and then go and tell the manager they are illegal?
Modern cars have xenon bulbs too, that's why they look bright white light.
Brighter bulbs does not equate to illegal.
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"I have no facilities to raise the car and work underneath so thats a workshop job but not a main dealer"
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"Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain."
"Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget"
Just so you know for this car being able to do work from under the car is almost certain. Having jack stands and way to raise the car safely (and I don't think Rhino ramps are safe for this car) are essential - they are just fundamental before you can even consider yourself a Shade Tree Mechanic.
This is easily one of the best car forums on the internet, because of the really good advice that some very competent subscribers provide as well as Jag technicians. There are even folks here who have their own repair facilities or repair cars for a living. I guarantee that the advice here has saved many a premature S-type being sent to the scrap yard. To pooh-pooh their well meant advice is foolish to put it mildly. You can listen to the advice and always do whatever you want to do - no one will be the wiser.
Oh by the way - S-type's generally look pretty on the outside till you have have fixed any issues that may be lurking - you may find yourself soon stuck on the side of the road. Also, if you are constrained on what work you can do yourself vs financially what you can afford to get done, my feeling is this is not the car for you.
And my last point - you are not a big boy till you have learned humility.
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"Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain."
"Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget"
Just so you know for this car being able to do work from under the car is almost certain. Having jack stands and way to raise the car safely (and I don't think Rhino ramps are safe for this car) are essential - they are just fundamental before you can even consider yourself a Shade Tree Mechanic.
This is easily one of the best car forums on the internet, because of the really good advice that some very competent subscribers provide as well as Jag technicians. There are even folks here who have their own repair facilities or repair cars for a living. I guarantee that the advice here has saved many a premature S-type being sent to the scrap yard. To pooh-pooh their well meant advice is foolish to put it mildly. You can listen to the advice and always do whatever you want to do - no one will be the wiser.
Oh by the way - S-type's generally look pretty on the outside till you have have fixed any issues that may be lurking - you may find yourself soon stuck on the side of the road. Also, if you are constrained on what work you can do yourself vs financially what you can afford to get done, my feeling is this is not the car for you.
And my last point - you are not a big boy till you have learned humility.
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As I have said, fitting brighter bulbs is not against the law.
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I am not proposing anyone break the law. These same bulbs I am talking about are sold by the car parts shops and motor factors all over the UK.
Go in your local Halfords and see xenon bulbs for sale and then go and tell the manager they are illegal?
Modern cars have xenon bulbs too, that's why they look bright white light.
Brighter bulbs does not equate to illegal.
Go in your local Halfords and see xenon bulbs for sale and then go and tell the manager they are illegal?
Modern cars have xenon bulbs too, that's why they look bright white light.
Brighter bulbs does not equate to illegal.
Modern cars with Xenons BY LAW must have self-level, special lenses, powerwash, etc. You are BREAKING THE LAW.
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"I have no facilities to raise the car and work underneath so thats a workshop job but not a main dealer"
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"Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain."
"Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget"
Just so you know for this car being able to do work from under the car is almost certain. Having jack stands and way to raise the car safely (and I don't think Rhino ramps are safe for this car) are essential - they are just fundamental before you can even consider yourself a Shade Tree Mechanic.
This is easily one of the best car forums on the internet, because of the really good advice that some very competent subscribers provide as well as Jag technicians. There are even folks here who have their own repair facilities or repair cars for a living. I guarantee that the advice here has saved many a premature S-type being sent to the scrap yard. To pooh-pooh their well meant advice is foolish to put it mildly. You can listen to the advice and always do whatever you want to do - no one will be the wiser.
Oh by the way - S-type's generally look pretty on the outside till you have have fixed any issues that may be lurking - you may find yourself soon stuck on the side of the road. Also, if you are constrained on what work you can do yourself vs financially what you can afford to get done, my feeling is this is not the car for you.
And my last point - you are not a big boy till you have learned humility.
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"Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain."
"Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget"
Just so you know for this car being able to do work from under the car is almost certain. Having jack stands and way to raise the car safely (and I don't think Rhino ramps are safe for this car) are essential - they are just fundamental before you can even consider yourself a Shade Tree Mechanic.
This is easily one of the best car forums on the internet, because of the really good advice that some very competent subscribers provide as well as Jag technicians. There are even folks here who have their own repair facilities or repair cars for a living. I guarantee that the advice here has saved many a premature S-type being sent to the scrap yard. To pooh-pooh their well meant advice is foolish to put it mildly. You can listen to the advice and always do whatever you want to do - no one will be the wiser.
Oh by the way - S-type's generally look pretty on the outside till you have have fixed any issues that may be lurking - you may find yourself soon stuck on the side of the road. Also, if you are constrained on what work you can do yourself vs financially what you can afford to get done, my feeling is this is not the car for you.
And my last point - you are not a big boy till you have learned humility.
However telling me I shouldn't waste my time and money on work that is cosmetic is plain ignorance. The three improvements i am doing are tried and tested improvements.
Just to remind you.
1. Fitting missing valve caps is not purely cosmetic.
2. Aero wiper blades work much better and last longer than the standard metal types in my experience of using them for 3 years.
They are not just cosmetic.
3. Fitting brighter bulbs is not purely cosmetic. They are brighter and provide better night vision than the standard yellow light type bulbs. I've been using xenon bulbs for years and they are not illegal.
There are always new things to learn, new products and technology changes.
But I do not accept being accused of making illegal modifications.
I would not tell anyone their improvement are a waste of time and tell someone how to spend their money.
Technology moved on from the guy walking infront with a red flag.
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Xenon bulbs are on sale all over the UK in car parts shops and in motor factors.
If anyone replaces a 55w type H7 bulb with a 55w type H7 xenon bulb purchased in Halfords, you prove they are illegal?
I was not talking about full headlight kits as you incorrrectly insinuated.
Put up or shut up? and stick to the facts.
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"I have no facilities to raise the car and work underneath so thats a workshop job but not a main dealer"
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"Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain."
"Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget"
Just so you know for this car being able to do work from under the car is almost certain. Having jack stands and way to raise the car safely (and I don't think Rhino ramps are safe for this car) are essential - they are just fundamental before you can even consider yourself a Shade Tree Mechanic.
This is easily one of the best car forums on the internet, because of the really good advice that some very competent subscribers provide as well as Jag technicians. There are even folks here who have their own repair facilities or repair cars for a living. I guarantee that the advice here has saved many a premature S-type being sent to the scrap yard. To pooh-pooh their well meant advice is foolish to put it mildly. You can listen to the advice and always do whatever you want to do - no one will be the wiser.
Oh by the way - S-type's generally look pretty on the outside till you have have fixed any issues that may be lurking - you may find yourself soon stuck on the side of the road. Also, if you are constrained on what work you can do yourself vs financially what you can afford to get done, my feeling is this is not the car for you.
And my last point - you are not a big boy till you have learned humility.
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"Thankfully I'm no rookie with cars and bikes and I'm reasonably competent, just bogged down with limited movement disabilities and chronic pain."
"Much like everyone I'm on a limited budget"
Just so you know for this car being able to do work from under the car is almost certain. Having jack stands and way to raise the car safely (and I don't think Rhino ramps are safe for this car) are essential - they are just fundamental before you can even consider yourself a Shade Tree Mechanic.
This is easily one of the best car forums on the internet, because of the really good advice that some very competent subscribers provide as well as Jag technicians. There are even folks here who have their own repair facilities or repair cars for a living. I guarantee that the advice here has saved many a premature S-type being sent to the scrap yard. To pooh-pooh their well meant advice is foolish to put it mildly. You can listen to the advice and always do whatever you want to do - no one will be the wiser.
Oh by the way - S-type's generally look pretty on the outside till you have have fixed any issues that may be lurking - you may find yourself soon stuck on the side of the road. Also, if you are constrained on what work you can do yourself vs financially what you can afford to get done, my feeling is this is not the car for you.
And my last point - you are not a big boy till you have learned humility.
Yes I am on a tight budget but that doesn't mean I can't pay other people to do work which I am physically unable.
I don't think it is your place to judge me. There is only one person who does the judging and I almost met him twice immediately after my RTA.
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Thanks again for the useful info.
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If I have this correct, it is not illegal. Doing a half-as*ed conversion to HID would be illegal, and rightly so.
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I think the OP is simply fitting 12 volt Xenon gas filled bulbs (lamps) in place of the normal 12 volt halogen filled lamps. He is not attempting a conversion to HID headlamps (which also use xenon-filled lamps).
If I have this correct, it is not illegal. Doing a half-as*ed conversion to HID would be illegal, and rightly so.
If I have this correct, it is not illegal. Doing a half-as*ed conversion to HID would be illegal, and rightly so.
I did clarify this early on.
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Prove it.
Xenon bulbs are on sale all over the UK in car parts shops and in motor factors.
If anyone replaces a 55w type H7 bulb with a 55w type H7 xenon bulb purchased in Halfords, you prove they are illegal?
I was not talking about full headlight kits as you incorrrectly insinuated.
Put up or shut up? and stick to the facts.
Xenon bulbs are on sale all over the UK in car parts shops and in motor factors.
If anyone replaces a 55w type H7 bulb with a 55w type H7 xenon bulb purchased in Halfords, you prove they are illegal?
I was not talking about full headlight kits as you incorrrectly insinuated.
Put up or shut up? and stick to the facts.
DFT (Department For Transport): “In the Department’s view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon.”
ECE Regulations Part 6.2.9. "Other requirements" says: "Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2,000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No. 45.”
Xenon bulbs are NOT suitable as halogen replacements. Halfords can sell them but YOU are breaking the law if you fit them. Your argument is like "some shops sell guns so it's OK to shoot people". Well, no.
If all you're fitting are bulbs WITH THE CORRECT beam pattern and lenses - which means changing the headlamps in an S-Type - and LOWER than the max legal brightness, which you certainly did not say, then that may be legal.
You will be aware I pointed out how easy it is to fit legal brighter halogens etc. Why not just go with the clearly legal easy way.
For those not in the EU, your laws typically do not mirror ours.
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By way of examples...
DFT (Department For Transport): “In the Department’s view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon.”
ECE Regulations Part 6.2.9. "Other requirements" says: "Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2,000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No. 45.”
Xenon bulbs are NOT suitable as halogen replacements. Halfords can sell them but YOU are breaking the law if you fit them. Your argument is like "some shops sell guns so it's OK to shoot people". Well, no.
If all you're fitting are bulbs WITH THE CORRECT beam pattern and LOWER than the max legal brightness, which you certainly did not say, then that may be legal.
You will be aware I pointed out how easy it is to fit legal brighter halogens etc. Why not just go with the clearly legal easy way.
DFT (Department For Transport): “In the Department’s view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon.”
ECE Regulations Part 6.2.9. "Other requirements" says: "Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2,000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No. 45.”
Xenon bulbs are NOT suitable as halogen replacements. Halfords can sell them but YOU are breaking the law if you fit them. Your argument is like "some shops sell guns so it's OK to shoot people". Well, no.
If all you're fitting are bulbs WITH THE CORRECT beam pattern and LOWER than the max legal brightness, which you certainly did not say, then that may be legal.
You will be aware I pointed out how easy it is to fit legal brighter halogens etc. Why not just go with the clearly legal easy way.
Can you prove the direct replacement xenon bulbs as sold all over the UK including by companies such as Halfords are illegal? Quoting a law is meaningless unless you have the data for all xenon direct replacement bulbs.
The answer is you cannot provide that data and you do not know the answer.
So you think fitting higher wattage halogen headlight bulbs is a better way?
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You're speaking to a guy who heavily modifies street motorcycles and I know very well what changes need to be notified to the insurance companies.
Fitting of pattern or non OE replacement service parts does not need to be notified to your insurance company.