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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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I would like to strangle the designers of this car. Nothing could be more difficult to work on

I am sorry I have to disagree with you on the above quote.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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The bushings are available from a company in England. There are 3 on each of the lower arms. The 2 small ones are the ones that go bad. They are about 100.00 each including shipping. The large bushing usually do not require replacing.

Racing Green Cars - Jaguar Parts Shop

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There is an ebay seller EUROMARQUE that specializes in Jaguar part and his prices are reasonable. Ed is owner and is very knowledgeable. He has a ton of OEM parts at significant discounts.


I think all my bushings are gone, are there any bushings on the upper wishbone for rear? I wanted to replace all of them at one time. Also how much labor is involved with replacing the bushings?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 06:16 AM
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MPG 21-22 city, 28-30 highway Avg. Best was 32.3 mpg avg on a 3500 mile round trip in two weeks.

Winter driving, no differant then any RWD. I'm from Wisconsin. I drive a +500whp RWD truck all year round and I do just fine with some snow tires on. Just keep your foot out of it. Spinning aint winning, it's just fun. lol
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mikewv100
I found the best way to live with an s type in the winter. Leave it in the garage and have a front ot 4 wheel drive car!!
That was my solution as well. I got an Audi A6 wagon for just that reason. When DC got the great storm this past winter, I had no problems getting around. My S-Type was parked until all the snow got cleared off.

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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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my str gets around 20 around town, with upwards of 28 on the highway. if i run at 72 mph for 4 hours straight on moderate hilly roads, i have averaged 27-28 everytime (think of the PA turnpike between philly and pitt) i have done that trip a few times.
That's outstanding mileage!

There's a good reason to buy his 2003 STR. That's 5-7 mpg better than mine a 2005.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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My STR gets better fuel economy than my 2002 2.5 X type did. Not by much but around town I'd be in the 17mpg range with the X and I'm closer to 20mph with the STR.

I'd drive an S-Type in the winter here in Pittsburgh (if I didn't have a Jeep), but only with proper snow tires. Hills + usually a good bit of snow = need traction. I always ran snows on my X Type as well, with the thinking that AWD does not help you stop.

OP I think you'll find the maintenance and repair costs/occurances of the S-Type will probably be less than what you have experienced with the early year X.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Of course some of it could be where I live. We don't drive here so much as we engage in automotive combat ... It's fairly intense.

But on long trips 23 is the very tops I have ever seen even with trying to be very careful. It quickly drops to 21-22 with any sort of spirited driving.

I guess 2005 is a bad year for mileage if you guys are getting in the high 20s?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Per the onboard computer, I got 26 mpg with an average speed of 79 mph from Pittsburgh to Hilton Head in late July (720 miles give or take) -very hot and humid the whole way. Fairly loaded down with vacation luggage and stuff. About 340lbs of people (me: 225lbs of it). 35 psi all the way around. I drove like a jackass, as usual. I didn't manually tabulate the mpg to backcheck the onboard figures though.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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I do not think the bushings are replaceable, but on both sides of mine the ball joint was the first part of control arm to wear out and it is not replaceable. Have to replace comlete upper arm.



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I think all my bushings are gone, are there any bushings on the upper wishbone for rear? I wanted to replace all of them at one time. Also how much labor is involved with replacing the bushings?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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I agree I should have stopped at not the easiest car to work on. The process for replacing various suspension components seem to require a lot of steps. I am not sure that parts replacement ease was considered on some things. Here is an example. This is JTIS replacement instructions for replacing rt front upper control arm which has 2 bolts and 3 nuts holding the actual part on.

My apologies, I am sure there are much more difficult vehicles to work on.






Upper Arm RHRemove the shock absorber and spring assembly. Remove the cabin air filter. Remove the cabin air filter housing retaining nut. Remove the cabin air filter housing. Remove the engine compartment support. Remove the engine compartment panel. Detach the wiring harness mounting bracket. Remove the upper arm retaining nut. Detach the engine compartment battery junction box.Release the engine compartment battery junction box retaining clips.Detach the engine compartment battery junction box. Detach the hydraulic control unit. Remove the upper arm retaining nut. Remove the upper arm. Install the upper arm. Install the upper arm retaining nut. Install the upper arm retaining nut.Install the shock absorber and spring assembly. The final tightening of the Upper arm retaining nut must be carried out with the vehicle on its wheels.Tighten to 47 Nm. The final tightening of the Upper arm retaining nut must be carried out with the vehicle on its wheels.Tighten to 47 Nm. Attach the hydraulic control unit. Attach the engine compartment battery junction box.reposition the engine compartment battery junction box .Attach the engine compartment battery junction box. Attach the wiring harness mounting bracket. Install the engine compartment panel. Install the engine compartment support. Install the cabin air filter housing. Install the cabin air filter housing retaining nut.Install the cabin air filter.





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I am sorry I have to disagree with you on the above quote.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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Upper Arm RHRemove the shock absorber and spring assembly. Remove the cabin air filter. Remove the cabin air filter housing retaining nut. Remove the cabin air filter housing. Remove the engine compartment support. Remove the engine compartment panel. Detach the wiring harness mounting bracket. Remove the upper arm retaining nut. Detach the engine compartment battery junction box.Release the engine compartment battery junction box retaining clips.Detach the engine compartment battery junction box. Detach the hydraulic control unit. Remove the upper arm retaining nut. Remove the upper arm. Install the upper arm. Install the upper arm retaining nut. Install the upper arm retaining nut.Install the shock absorber and spring assembly. The final tightening of the Upper arm retaining nut must be carried out with the vehicle on its wheels.Tighten to 47 Nm. The final tightening of the Upper arm retaining nut must be carried out with the vehicle on its wheels.Tighten to 47 Nm. Attach the hydraulic control unit. Attach the engine compartment battery junction box.reposition the engine compartment battery junction box .Attach the engine compartment battery junction box. Attach the wiring harness mounting bracket. Install the engine compartment panel. Install the engine compartment support. Install the cabin air filter housing. Install the cabin air filter housing retaining nut.Install the cabin air filter.
After reviewing the replacment procedure for the Right Upper Control Arm, I agree it does sound like its alot of work. Alldata is calling for a 2 hour process (actually looks kinda fun), not bad if you are into saving BIG bucks!

I have found that Alldata timelines to be pretty accurate (on many a different vehicles) that I have wrenched on.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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Good grief! That is a quite the ordeal. I wonder what the dealer book shop time (rate) is for that job.

EDIT - hey Rick, can you lay off the mind reading for a minute or two man, you are messing up my flow! LOL....
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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I wonder what the dealer book shop time (rate) is for that job.

2 hours!

But I know someone here will chime in and state that the time doesn't allow for the "northern" seized, rusted bolt factor .

I know, I know here I go yet again with my southern mentality.... let the flaming begin .
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chris X

EDIT - hey Rick, can you lay off the mind reading for a minute or two man, you are messing up my flow! LOL....

 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by joycesjag
2 hours!

But I know someone here will chime in and state that the time doesn't allow for the "northern" seized, rusted bolt factor .

I know, I know here I go yet again with my southern mentality.... let the flaming begin .

it calls for 2 boxes of bandaids, 30 stones' (keystone beer), and 2 hrs of labor.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Manual calls for 1.8. Of course this is assuming that you have done it before and have all of the correct tools handy and nuts and bolts aren"t seized.

When doing the rear lower arms, the time was cut in half on the second one.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mikewv100
I do not think the bushings are replaceable, but on both sides of mine the ball joint was the first part of control arm to wear out and it is not replaceable. Have to replace comlete upper arm.
I had a similar question and you just answered it.
Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mikewv100
I found the best way to live with an s type in the winter. Leave it in the garage and have a front ot 4 wheel drive car!!
I second that thought. I live in the great lakes region and when the snow begins to fall nothing beat my old 94 Jeep Cherokee. My VDP was the same way not much fun to drive around in the winter unless you like sliding.
 
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