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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 09:42 PM
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hey guys and gals - i can't find my key. i haven't driven my STR in ages since last night and long story short, the key is nowhere to be found -- don't have a spare here but luckily my window was down and i 'broke in' and insta-disabled the horn/battery. i still cannot access the only place where the key hopefully is; the trunk.

recap: no spare key but hopefully my key is locked safely in the trunk. where's the neon pull thing in the STR/S-type? thanks.
 

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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 11:21 PM
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oh no! if the battery is dead or dis connected you will need the key to open the boot/trunk.
although i have read there is a battery positive jump starting point somewhere behind one of the front wheel arch plastic under guards . you could put power to that to use the boot opener button . or if you have the ski option behind the center rear arm rest you might be able to reach the key through there .
 
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if the battery is dead or disconnected you will need the key to open the boot/trunk.
although i have read there is a battery positive jump starting point somewhere behind one of the front wheel arch plastic under guards . you could put power to that to use the boot opener button
Two ways to connect a battery charger are detailed in this thread:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ng-port-87362/
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 11:38 PM
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my window was down and i 'broke in' and insta-disabled the horn/battery. i
In the immortal words of Ricky Ricardo, "You've got some 'splaining to do!"

What exactly do you mean when you "broke in" through an open window? Reminds me of the panic I had one time years ago with another car. I accidentally locked all the doors with my kids and the keys inside. To add insult to injury, it started raining and the convertible top was down...

And how does one "insta-disable" the horn (and battery) without access to the trunk?

Call me curious.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
In the immortal words of Ricky Ricardo, "You've got some 'splaining to do!"

What exactly do you mean when you "broke in" through an open window? Reminds me of the panic I had one time years ago with another car. I accidentally locked all the doors with my kids and the keys inside. To add insult to injury, it started raining and the convertible top was down...

And how does one "insta-disable" the horn (and battery) without access to the trunk?

Call me curious.
if you have a fix i'll certainly explain....again.
 

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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Datsports
oh no! if the battery is dead or dis connected you will need the key to open the boot/trunk.
although i have read there is a battery positive jump starting point somewhere behind one of the front wheel arch plastic under guards . you could put power to that to use the boot opener button . or if you have the ski option behind the center rear arm rest you might be able to reach the key through there .
battery isn't dead -- in fact, i just bought a new one. if/when i reconnect power, i get a lot of horn/anti-theft. is there not a manual trunk/boot release in this model?


there's not a jag dealer for miles...car is parked at my mom's, etc. life got frustrating tonight.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Two ways to connect a battery charger are detailed in this thread:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ng-port-87362/

1 key, brand new battery...key possibly (more than likely) locked in trunk.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 02:02 AM
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There's no way into the trunk that hasn't already been posted apart from possibly a locksmith or else serious damage by forcing something. You could have arranged a way but it's now too late.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by larbear
there's not a jag dealer for miles...car is parked at my mom's, etc. life got frustrating tonight.
Nah....that's nothing compared to the realization that will eventually set in when you realize that if you don't locate said single key....you'll have to have the car hauled "miles" to the nearest Jag dealer, prove ownership to their satisfaction, then buy not one, but TWO keys plus programming services from them.....likely north of $500 if you also get FOBs!
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 05:56 AM
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Here a locksmith will avoid all that and for vastly less money. Though... the thought of all that ought to sharpen the thinking...
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 07:58 AM
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>Here a locksmith will avoid all that and for vastly less money. Though...

Agree, that's why they're there...

Start calling around and explain your situation. The consequences of doing anything else are not good!

Then once you're in, and recover the key, have that same locksmith cut you a new one. They can obtain the "code" from the existing key and transfer it to a new blank. No need to reprogram the entire system. A good locksmith will also have the blank and machine that can cut a new key. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, Jaguars share the key blank with some Fords so I don't believe a key blank for an S-Type should be really very hard to get.

Go cheap and just get the physical key (i.e., no fob). Had one done last year ~$100.00. That will be you spare safety key. Both the driver's door and the trunk have key-locks. There's really no need to use the fob, so why pay all the $ to get one?
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664

And how does one "insta-disable" the horn (and battery) without access to the trunk?

Call me curious.
Me too. If the battery is connected and you're inside the car with the doors unlocked, why not push the trunk release button?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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With the key out of the ignition for quite a while most modules shut down. Does that disable the trunk release button?

There again, being in the car I think you could open a (locked) door by using the lever inside the car (recessed into the door) and that also would wake up the modules I suspect.

I can't try exactly that as (being in the UK) I have a different variant of the locking etc system.

Regardless, the locksmith is a quite affordable way forward...
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
There again, being in the car I think you could open a (locked) door by using the lever inside the car (recessed into the door) and that also would wake up the modules I suspect.
I'm not positive, but if the alarm is armed, I believe opening a locked door from the inside will set off the alarm. The logic is probably as defense from breaking a window or using a wire hook to reach an interior handle. I know my Lincoln was like that, having learned the hard way at a drive-in movie...

And if the alarm is triggered, I bet it also disables the trunk release button.

Still curious what was done to disable the horn and alarm, but don't know of any other way to ask the same question since it didn't work the first time...

Can't say I have a definitive fix waiting, but do have some ideas that may help if we knew what had already been done. Probably a moot point anyway with the $100 locksmith option.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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hmm, you're probably right.

Reckon we'll ever hear the outcome?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 11:47 AM
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OP if you call around to a lock smith, besure to mention that the key is a "Tibbe" style. Alot of US locksmiths do not carry that kind of key from my understanding. I also believe that since you are in the Raleigh area there are indy shops available to you check around.


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Reckon we'll ever hear the outcome?
heh heh heh, I have a feeling you may be correct!
 
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
There's no way into the trunk that hasn't already been posted apart from possibly a locksmith or else serious damage by forcing something. You could have arranged a way but it's now too late.

there is. 200X S-Type R FWIW but here goes:

i just got a new battery and shortly thereafter lost my key. luckily, my d/s window was down -- car was armed. long story short, popped hood, alarm went bonkers...disconnected the underhood terminal.

my STR has the 'ski' package (pretty sure they all do) and i unfastened that. i also found the clips to fold the rear seats down, as well as the bolsters. underneath the rear package tray there are 8 x 10mm nuts that are part structural/facade aluminum pass-thru thing once you get the seats down...of course there's a bunch of plastic rivets on the wool-ish package tray fascia but eh...get em.

crawl thru like a weirdo and (carefully undo/snap all that **** around the latch) you'll find there's 2 10mm bolts to the trunk latch. unscrew them.

trunk open. key was in it.

as far as 'explaining' and 'doubts' etc:







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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
With the key out of the ignition for quite a while most modules shut down. Does that disable the trunk release button?

There again, being in the car I think you could open a (locked) door by using the lever inside the car (recessed into the door) and that also would wake up the modules I suspect.

I can't try exactly that as (being in the UK) I have a different variant of the locking etc system.

Regardless, the locksmith is a quite affordable way forward...
it entirely disables the electrical trunk release from what i dealt with.

its unfortunate for those who lock their key safely in the trunk...after/whilst schadenfreudely arming it. luckily, my d/s window was down.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
I'm not positive, but if the alarm is armed, I believe opening a locked door from the inside will set off the alarm. The logic is probably as defense from breaking a window or using a wire hook to reach an interior handle. I know my Lincoln was like that, having learned the hard way at a drive-in movie...

And if the alarm is triggered, I bet it also disables the trunk release button.

Still curious what was done to disable the horn and alarm, but don't know of any other way to ask the same question since it didn't work the first time...

Can't say I have a definitive fix waiting, but do have some ideas that may help if we knew what had already been done. Probably a moot point anyway with the $100 locksmith option.
my alarm went off as soon as i popped my hood. don't want to make this a tutorial on how to stop the honking...but it's pretty ****ing easy to stop the honking if the hood is up. there's electrical stuff there and there's a horn with wires and stuff.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 12:39 AM
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Ski was pointed out in post #2
 
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